I really should switch to Graphene
Can I install my bank app on it yet? I remember having problems with attestation in the past.
What about full application backups? I've got a few offline apps, I'd like to transfer the data to/from. However, I thought grapheneOS needed the application developer to "approved" this backup/restore method - or you needed root (which invalidated attestation)... I don't recall which it was (but I really miss titanium backup).
my bank app is specificially listed as working but i would def check
Which banking app? I can try to install and launch it, tho I probably won't ask for your login to test that, haha
Nope, but you can use their web apps.
Not sure about backing up apps, never looked into it.
here is a list of compatible banking apps, however the list is crowd sourced so trust but verify.
What’s making you choose Graphene?
Lots of reasons but mostly privacy and a boner for doing nerdy shit.
Privacy
I also went Graphene, and it's privacy for me too.
I really don't want Google Play Services running, and GrapheneOS gives me that option. I have three profiles:
- main - no Google Play Services, most apps are from F-Droid
- work - Google Play Services, and only the apps I need for work
- "google" - Google Play Services, and only apps I need occasionally (e.g. Google Watch/Wallet, Maps, etc)
I spend 99% of my time on main, and most of the rest in "work" (need it for MFA). My phone reboots every 4 hours, so Google Play eventually stops running in the background (tried more frequently, and it was annoying).
There are other Android ROMs, but GrapheneOS has really rapid security updates, perhaps faster than anywhere else. The other projects are good too, it's just the first I tried and I've liked it so far.
This is the best way to do headcount reductions imo. In large organisations there's always someone who's been there for a long time and gotten tired of the work, and that would gladly take this type of offer if it's lucrative enough.
To demonstrate - imagine that you've been considering quitting your job for a while. Then someone comes along and says that if you do that, you also get some additional cash for free. You'd probably take it, right?
And if you necessarily need to reduce headcount, then there's also the argument that if someone leaves voluntarily, then someone who wants to stay doesn't have to get pushed out.
So yeah, I'm not against this
In my experience with this format, only the good ones are leaving and you're stuck with the rest.
My last job did this. They offered more for those who had worked there longer. People with over 15 years got about a years pay and they all took it. People who had been there under a year got nothing so they all stayed.
I was going to take then they withdrew the offer for all devs. I think a lot tried to take it and they realised no one would be left. I would have got 3-4 months pay. Loads of institutional knowledge lost though, i left anyway a few months later.
Absolutely. The ones who've resigned mentally are fine within their positions. The people with all the business connections and references will be the ones to grab the money and simply start something new. It happened at my company. I was only 3 years in, so it wasn't enough money for me to quit. But loads of good people left the company.
Neither pixel nor android teams should need reductions, this is Google being cheap and fucking with employees' income for no reason other than blind greed.
I mean, you're probably right, but between this and regular layoffs? This every day of the week
Well yeah, being given the option is better than the alternative. I just wish folks wouldn't accept the premise that Google has any legitimate reason to lay anyone off from Android or Pixel teams. Android, of all things, one of the most widely used operating systems on the planet.
It's not to say I accept it, but I also know that I don't exactly have a choice in the matter.
This has been the worst part about working in tech since the big layoff period from about the beginning of 2023 - unthinkable levels of uncertainty in your life.
Still definitely got a better deal than most in life, but damn if it hasn't been mentally taxing
I feel it. My company thankfully hasn't done any layoffs, but I still don't feel very secure, and I no longer feel like I'll be able to easily find another job that pays enough if something does happen.
And that's without all the rest of the uncertainty going on right now..
Neither pixel nor android teams should need reductions
Oh, you work there? Please regale us with your insider knowledge
Last year, the teams responsible for Pixel hardware and Android software were merged into one division, and Google today announced a “voluntary exit program” for employees working in the Platforms & Devices group.
At least there's some plausible reasoning for this, instead of blanket headcount reduction to pad profits. Reasoning doesn't change much of course.
I don't work for Google. I'm but a voluntary ~~product~~ customer. But if they could offer me a way to get away from them, I'd gladly take it.
Right now I'm moving my personal domain over to cloudflare and email to mxroute. Considering setting up some calendar and similar groupware stuff on kubernetes on Oracles free tier as well.
That's the other rub...if I want to cloud host anything, I get to choose between Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Oracle, and Alibaba. Wonderful selection we have there.
(I recognize there are smaller players out there like linode and ovh and a trillion VPS providers...only reason I'm considering Oracle is because they give so much free "forever". And kubernetes is fun for me in like a jigsaw kind of way. Not like the puzzle but the guy from Saw)
Sorry for being harsh, but if you use the "free "forever"" offering of any company as alternative to what google offers you learnt nothing from using google.
I think free cloud compute offerings are a bit different. Different motivations. They aren't trying to harvest your data, they are trying to advertise their product.
They want sysadmins to play around and convince their bosses to buy in on Oracle. They want web devs to build demos and get their clients to host there. They want companies to get their feet wet risk free, before spending tens of thousands of dollars migrating existing workloads to them.
Harvesting data from those customers would be a scandal, and have massive negative repercussions.
And honestly, even with the announcement of Stargate and Oracle being a partner, I'd probably rather give them a couple dollars a month to run a couple small buckets than to give it to Amazon.
I can't self host at home because no incoming IP. Unless I want to switch to my only other option, Xfinity. Which I don't.
And...let's face it...if the government wants to find me, they are going to find me. It doesn't matter if my Bluesky PDS or my kids Minecraft server is hosted at home or up there. It's tied to me either way.
These are the same people who brought you Oracle DB licensing. They’ll fuck you over someday, the countdown clock is already ticking
Forever is only forever until profit margins get tight or they have a bad enough fiscal quarter...
I replaced most cloud services with my own Nextcloud instance. I like Nextcloud.
I have two free forever servers, they are alright, but they route weird. When I'm in China they go from Beijing to Japan and then to Korea causing packet loss and delays
I've seen enough traps set by Oracle to be extra afraid of any wooden horses they are offering up.
Did they title the offer "Fork in the Road," too?
Have you considered voluntary redundancy?
No.
Have you considered involuntary redundancy?
Can Sundar Pichai please take the offer?
Fuck is Pixel going to go away? Apparently the pixel 9 sold well
The Pixel 9 Pro is incredible. Writing this on it right now. I love it. Previously had the 6. I'll be sad if they go away, for real.
Maybe they just want to downsize cause there isn't as much to do nowadays when the OS is so mature?
This is not the way to do that. This is a way to get rid of your best people because, as the United States government is about to find out, when you offer a voluntary exit to people with a severance package the ones who know they have ability and are competent will take that package and leave and get better jobs. And the ones that know they suck or are too lazy are going to stay. There's actually a list somewhere of companies that have done this and have gone under because of it.
Hilarious, I just got a reach out for working on the Pixel camera
Ah yes, we need more laid off tech workers in the sector. We nearly don't have enough!
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