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TLDR if you don't wanna watch the whole thing: Benaminute (the Youtuber here) creates a fresh YouTube account and watches all recommended shorts without skipping. They repeat this 5 times, where they change their location to a random city in the US.

Below is the number of shorts after which alt-right content was recommended. Left wing/liberal content was never recommended first.

  1. Houston: 88 shorts
  2. Chicago: 98 shorts
  3. Atlanta: 109 shorts
  4. NYC: 247 shorts
  5. San Fransisco: never (Benaminute stopped after 250 shorts)

There however, was a certain pattern to this. First, non-political shorts were recommended. After that, AI Jesus shorts started to be recommended (with either AI Jesus talking to you, or an AI narrator narrating verses from the Bible). After this, non-political shorts by alt-right personalities (Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, Ben Shapiro, etc.) started to be recommended. Finally, explicitly alt-right shorts started to be recommended.

What I personally found both disturbing and kinda hilarious was in the case of Chicago. The non-political content in the beginning was a lot of Gen Alpha brainrot. Benaminute said that this seemed to be the norm for Chicago, as they had observed this in another similar experiment (which dealt with long-form content instead of shorts). After some shorts, there came a short where AI Gru (the main character from Despicable Me) was telling you to vote for Trump. He was going on about how voting for "Kamilia" would lose you "10000 rizz", and how voting for Trump would get you "1 million rizz".

In the end, Benaminute along with Miniminuteman propose a hypothesis trying to explain this phenomenon. They propose that alt-right content might be inciting more emotion, thus ranking high up in the algorithm. They say the algorithm isn't necessarily left wing or right wing, but that alt-right wingers have understood the methodology of how to capture and grow their audience better.

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[-] Hope@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Just scrolling through shorts on a given day, I'm usually recommended at least one short by someone infamously hostile to the LGBTQIA+ community. I get that it could be from people with my interests hate-watching, but I don't want to be shown any of it. (Nearly all of my YouTube subscriptions are to LGBTQIA+ creators. I'm not subscribed to anyone who has ever even mentioned support for right leaning policies on anything.)

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

I like Youtube (with adblocker) but shorts are pretty trashy. It's mostly shorts of women as naked as they can get on Youtube without breaking the rules who have purposefully given themselves super camel toes and set the thumbnail for the short to show their camel toe to get people's attention. And it's just a front to get you to their OnlyFans.

[-] Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

I mostly get stuff about parrots and cake decorating.

[-] drapermache@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Strange, I don't get anything risque, just tech videos and some improv comedy. I still don't like shorts though. I'm highly tempted to use revanced to take out the shorts section.

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[-] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Real talk: I've been using YouTube without an account and with some ad blocking stuff installed. Based on what I'm seeing, I'm pretty sure the algorithm's datapoint for me is "He was born with a penis and is ok with that."

When I lose my better judgement and start scrolling shorts like an idiot, It is fight videos (IRL, movie scenes, UFC and boxing), auditing, Charlie Kirk and right-wing influencers, and the occasional clip from Shoresy on the basis "He might be Canadian too, idk".

It is noticibly weird, and I have brought it up to my kid who uses an account, is not what Youtube believes me to be, and whose shorts feed is very different.

We do both get that guy who opens Pokemon cards with a catchy jingle, though.

[-] ObsidianNebula@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

I check friends' Snapchat stories from time to time, and Snapchat suggests public stories on the same page. I think Snapchat has the same sort of singular data point on me that "this account is likely a straight man", because most of what they show me are sports clips, woman influencers in revealing clothing, and right-wing influencers talking about culture war stuff. I never view any of that sort of stuff, but it still shows up any time I try to check my friend's stories. I guess I view public stories so infrequently that they just give me a default generic man feed.

[-] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Instagram does the same thing with "dark jokes" and really weird ufo and conspiracy videos it really sucks

[-] phx@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Not really surprising that short video clips would be used to target people with lower critical-thinking skills and attention spans

[-] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago

If they are using a vpn to switch their location, could it be that people in the south are using the same ip to access phub and rightwing crap?

[-] Imhotep@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

fresh YouTube account

change their location to a random city in the US

yeah but you're still bound to IP addresses. I was under the impression Youtube used those for their profiling

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[-] DigitalNirvana@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago
[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago

I've ditched their algorithm, but I'm not going back to a text only internet. It's so much more helpful to listen while I drive or follow along with someone's screen.

I'd like to see the creators get out of youtube and make more money but I can't say I like patreon much either.

Would be cool to tie fedeverse into non-profit monetization.

[-] Zoot@reddthat.com 3 points 8 months ago

Just anecdotal but I only ever watch duck videos or funny animal videos with occasional other funnies or crazy science things, and that's still all I ever get. Other days I get plenty of cool music like tesla coils making music or other piano music.

Am I youtubing wrong?

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[-] uberdroog@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Didn't watch, why is milo pictured?

[-] MorphiusFaydal@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

The presenter chats with Milo.

[-] uberdroog@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago
[-] youvegotmoxie@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago
[-] uberdroog@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

I'm reading this while my daughter warms up for a chorus. Don't be a dick.

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

You could always save it and watch it later if you actually give a shit.

[-] random_character_a@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

You get what you usually click?

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I didn't watch the video, but it's YT short, you just swipe like tiktok. The few ways to curate the algorithm is to either swipe away quickly, click on the "not interested" button, downvote, or delete watched shorts from history. If you doesn't interact with any of this and watch the full length of the video, the algorithm gonna assume you like this kind of content. They also will introduce you content you never watched before to gauge your interest, a lot of times it's not even related to what you currently watched, and if you didn't do any curation, they gonna feed you the exact type for some times. I don't know how they manage the curation but that's the gist of it from my experience. My feed have 0 politics, mostly cats. I control the feed strictly so i got what i demand.

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