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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net to c/memes@slrpnk.net

That's what my guy at Cargill is for!

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 123 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Honestly, they already know -- most farmers these days have college degrees in soil science or agribusiness or horticulture or whatever. After all, most farms are owned by Big Ag and they've presumably got the same "we just immediately shred your resume if you don't have at least a bachelor's, whether the job actually needs it or not" applicant gatekeeping standards as the rest of corporate America.

If they're not doing the sustainable thing it's not because they're ignorant, it's because it's less profitable than the unsustainable thing and they're choosing the shortsighted option on purpose.

[-] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 month ago

In 2019, a guy at my work told me that his cousin, who was significantly more rural than him, was working on plotting all his fields with drones so he could could largely automate harvesting as well as engage in targeted fertilizing, pesticide and herbicide application. Same person also apparently was running a (legal) grow operation out of a big barn that they were trying to make carbon neutral with on-site renewables.

Folks in ‘rural’ trades can be very high tech if they know how it’ll make them money.

[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago

This mostly depends on the farm size. How rural the area is isn't that much important in terms of how high tech a farm is.

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

^ Excellent comment.

[-] kishkebab@lemmings.world 3 points 1 month ago

So more reason to hate farmers doing the wrong thing?

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago

A large reason for that is that corporate farms have won out over family farms. The family farms that are still standing have taken similar approaches and there's been a lot more effort invested in actually learning the science and business as you point out. 30 years ago it was a much different story.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

corporate farms have won out over family farms

Bullshit.

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 weeks ago

Huh. TIL. Thanks for the share

[-] FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 57 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What do you mean all this nitrogen I'm putting down is burning my crops? I been doing it the same way for thirty-odds years.

dumb city folk don't know what they talk about

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Legit farmers are often highly knowledgeable in their field (pun intended).

[-] Arkhive 19 points 1 month ago

Especially now with the crazy tech being put into harvesting equipment. These guys can basically field strip a near fully autonomous combine harvester and put it back together with little more than a socket set and good ol’ grit. Not to mention they are definitely doing soil testing all the time and 100% know what should be planted where and when to maintain soil health.

I watched a piece about machine vision being used to identify pests that harvesting equipment then shoots with lasers rather than just full coverage pesticide spraying. These folks are honestly near the leading edge of some wild tech, because they are actually putting it to clear, effective, use rather than generating 13.5 fingered images of their favorite cartoon character in the nude like so many other AI enjoyers.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 month ago

This is AI right, I think I saw this image before in an AI subreddit

[-] crimsoncobalt@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Looks like it to me. Something weird is going on with the red shirt's waistline and where are his arms? Plus the shadows are too harsh for an overcast sky.

[-] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Watched an explanation of AI generated images and they pointed out that since the images start with a seed of black and white noise, they (almost) always come out with an even mix of light and dark areas.

Once you see it, AI images are much easier to spot.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 7 points 1 month ago

Oh, so that's why the lighting is always cartoonish.

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Yes it's confirmed AI but dropping pic quality so no one can tell

Imagine being this condescending to professionals in a highly complicated field. Farmers know this shit, hell they helped invent it you fucking prick.

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Don't kid yourself, there is still an assload of convention tillage and monocropping going on, at least in my neck of the woods.

I've surveyed large swaths of agricultural land; hundreds of inspection points, and the B horizon has been completely lost due to annual tillage. In one case I had two pits 200 m away from each other. One was in the field and one was in a stand of trees they didn't clear. The field profile had maybe 15 cm of A horizon with no structure over a calcareous C. The bush profile had 50 cm of well structured A horizon, and another 20 cm of B overtop of the same calcareous C. It was beautiful.

In another field, a guy was moldboarding... This is just one of the surveys I've been on.

There's a lot of guys out there who know what they are doing, and they do it well, but at least in my opinion, regenerative Ag needs to catch on more. From my perspective, there seems to be resistance, though, and I'm not sure if it's from economics, generational practices, or a combination of factors.

Combination of factors including being treated like dogshit by everyone that think tractors are still flywheel powered monsters

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I saw it and just moved on because I was going to get pissed off arguing with assholes that have never seen a tractor first hand.

We put hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of land into legume fallow and cover crops in order to increase fertility. We plan for weeks ahead of every planting season to understand soil tests and come up with strategies that get a crop off and built organic matter. We spend hundreds of thousands on equipment to reduce tillage and encourage soil biomes.

But I guess we're still stupid fucking assholes to everyone. Kinda gotten used to the hate.

[-] MoonMelon@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah I know this is just an AI generated meme, but people who look like this are actually pretty solar punk, in my experience. I first heard of fracking radishes from a 70 year old farmer, 15 years ago. This meme just promotes culture war bullshit.

I know, I grew up in a farming town. One of the few reasons I accept how fucking angry rural people are is because of how the internet and urbanites treat us, it doesn't matter who I'm talking to as soon as I let my accent slip you can see their opinion drop as now they just see a country hick

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 weeks ago
[-] MoonMelon@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago

You use super long daikon radishes to break up the soil and then disc them in. Breaks up soil naturally without plowing and acts as winter cover.

https://www.restorationseeds.com/products/fracking-forage-radish

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 weeks ago

Hey that's super cool!

We looked at using a paratill that injected manure pellets behind it for the same thing, with the idea that the manure would encourage deeper rooting/long term break up. It kind of worked, but not really. It was also really labour intensive and expensive.

Throwing something like this into your rotation would probably work a lot better given that an article I read (Raper et al 2001, I think?) found that while subsoil tillage works, you need to do it at least every 3 years; not a one time treatment like we were doing.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 23 points 1 month ago

...or they just saw a minority. Similar look!

[-] nomy@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

This is WAY more likely in my experience, they know all about cover crops and that's about it.

[-] bblkargonaut@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

The extension life

[-] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

This here soil is as fer-tile as my cousin wife's baby maker and no city slicken, fancy pant scientist is gunna tell me different, ya hear!

[-] weker01@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't understand. What's the message behind the meme?

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