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Thanks to @General_Effort@lemmy.world for the links!

Here’s a link to Caltech’s press release: https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/thinking-slowly-the-paradoxical-slowness-of-human-behavior

Here’s a link to the actual paper (paywall): https://www.cell.com/neuron/abstract/S0896-6273(24)00808-0

Here’s a link to a preprint: https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.10234

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[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 5 points 4 months ago

In fact, the 10 bits per second are needed only in worst-case situations, and most of the time our environment changes at a much more leisurely pace."

Bruh some tech pro is going to read this and interpret this in a terrible fashion but then again humans already change our environment.

[-] ReadMoreBooks@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago

Yet, it takes an enormous amount of processing power to produce a comment such as this one. How much would it take to reason why the experiment was structured as it was?

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

Information theory is all about cutting through the waste of a given computation to compare apples to apples.

I'll replicate an example I posted elsewhere:

Let's say I make a machine that sums two numbers between 0-127, and returns the output. Let's say this machine also only understands spoken French. According to information theory, this machine receives 14 bits of information (two 7-bit numbers with equal probability for all values) and returns 8 bits of information. The fact that it understands spoken French is irrelevant to the computation and is ignored.

That's the same line of reasoning here, and the article makes this clear by indicating that brains take in billions of bits of sensory data. But they're not looking at overall processing power, they're looking at cognition, or active thought. Performing a given computational task is about 10 bits/s, which is completely separate from the billions of bits per second of background processing we do.

[-] ReadMoreBooks@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

A lion sucks if measured as a bird.

[-] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 months ago

I could believe that we take 10 decisions based on pre-learned information per second, but we must be able to ingest new information at a much quicker rate.

I mean: look at an image for a second. Can you only remember 10 things about it?

It's hard to speculate on such a short and undoubtedly watered down, press summary. You'd have to read the paper to get the full nuance.

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[-] stinky@redlemmy.com 3 points 4 months ago

Caltech article: https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/thinking-slowly-the-paradoxical-slowness-of-human-behavior

The full text of the paper costs $35 to read once.

"Look, I made a really exciting controversial discovery! It's really emotional and intriguing! You're missing out! Only smart rich people can read it! Put your money in the basket please :)" Our education system is dead the the populace is too stupid to care.

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