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[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 46 points 1 day ago

Reminder that Luigi didn't do it

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Luigis can't melt steel beams?

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[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 103 points 1 day ago

This will probably be taken down, but psychology is what I do so here it is. This is not endorsement this is an explanation as to why there’s different sentiment for this shooting.

This was stated in Trevor Noah’s latest podcast in open discussion. Josh Johnson raises the point. Most gun violence stories on the news, people personally feel threatened. Outraged that they or theirs could be at a music festival, a movie, at school. Most assholes with a gun are killing innocent people, never mind all the other bits. And most are clearly a little “crazy.”

This was targeted, killer on killer, no collateral (death/injury) damage. The CEO had kids that’s the collateral damage. There’s even a lady with coffee who walks on scene then nopes out unharmed.

This isn’t endorsement. This WHY the public as a whole doesn’t seem to mind. The guy who died killed thousands. That solves the innocent part. The killer doesn’t feel threatening to any of us. Because he’s not. That solves the threat. As for sanity, gun arguments aside, the manifesto isn’t unhinged.

And so we find ourselves in an unusual space. Understandably so. This is new.

No I didn’t read the article.

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[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 64 points 1 day ago

Most definitely, he isn't the unibomber largely indiscriminately killing people based on some ideological manifesto, he targeted someone in charge of driving many families into bankruptcy if not outright murdering patients with denials, and targeted a problem that many know to be true. They may be trying to rewrite the legacy of the CEO, but he was not "one of the good guys".

Although there is some crossover to the unibomber's manifesto, in the sense that where this would have been the breaking point in societies of the past waiting for a revolution, the new means of control and technology is being used to keep it under control, from all sides, even and specially those that abused social networks to put Trump in power. Can't have the status quo of "[I can] stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody [but not you]" challenged.

Yes and, board members are the ones enabling the CEOs. They need to be targeted as well.

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

There's a lot of overlap.

In recent years, around 30% of newly appointed board members in the S&P 500 have been active or retired CEOs.

And:

CEOs and directors with financial backgrounds constitute 59% of the incoming class of S&P 500 directors...

Source, for whatever it's worth. I admittedly just did a cursory Google search out of curiosity and that's what popped up, but I had a feeling it'd be a significant percentage.

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[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 113 points 1 day ago

No shit... The gaping hole is the fact rich fucks are all we have to vote for. The President that recently won is the biggest example of undeserved wealth and power ever.

[-] Shizrak@sh.itjust.works 8 points 23 hours ago

We need to bring back "No taxation without representation" because rich fucks sure as hell can't fairly represent the rest of us.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago

Well you see the problem is that its 'no taxation for the represented' oops.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago

Tell ya what. I'm struggling to make rent right now. Working 6 days a week, living alone, just keeping my head above water.

2028, everybody vote for me, and I'll run on the platform of giving rich people the middle finger.

Like Robin Hood......except vulgar.

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

If someone ran for governor of NY on a platform of giving Luigi a full pardon, they would win in a landslide.

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago

In theory, couldn’t Luigi run for president from jail?

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

In theory, yes!

[-] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

You are delusional if you think that elections are not just a horse race for the rich and that common people have any power. If common people interests were what drives elections you would have had free healthcare, free education, worker right and more like a century ago.

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[-] Reality_Suit@lemmy.world 226 points 1 day ago

Because he's done more to fix our healthcare system than any politician.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 95 points 1 day ago

I wouldn't say fixed as things are the same way as they are, but reminded us how every day we are fucked by oligarchs.

This is a weird time as we just elected them, just look how many billionaires are in trump's cabinet picks.

[-] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 6 points 22 hours ago

I mean, Anthem did back down from that stupid policy about time limit anesthesia

[-] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 1 day ago

as we just elected them

That's because the system is rigged. We can only ever choose between one rich person and another.

[-] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 5 points 22 hours ago

You can't compare Harris and Trump in that regard whatsoever

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[-] majordufous@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

He can fix us.

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[-] dumbass@leminal.space 46 points 1 day ago

I'm from Australia and I'm quite obsessed with this, so it's a pretty global feeling.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Am from Germany. I want them to know this is what happens if they ever take our health care away. Pry it from my cold dead hands and all that. Luigi is a hero!

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[-] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 3 points 21 hours ago

Yeah, America, meaning USA. The rest of the world is tired of hearing it.

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[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 72 points 1 day ago

I wonder. I still talk about snowden being a hero and I get some yahoo arguing with me. heroes of the millenia.

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[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 83 points 1 day ago

I've been surprised by how many people are celebrating this guy. Just goes to show how strongly the contempt is felt for the American healthcare system.

[-] jadedwench@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

When you remember when "pre-existing conditions" was a thing until Obama stopped it and the fear that it will be allowed again, you absolutely are not going to shed a damn tear. If you really want to be depressed, watch Sicko by Michael Moore. Things have changed a little bit since then, but the attitude of the insurance and big pharma have absolutely not. The no surprises act that went in this year was another step forward, but who knows how long it will stick. People still go to other countries to get medical procedures and medication. People still go bankrupt from medical bills. People still have to spend hours on the phone begging some underpaid drone to get them healthcare because what your doctor says you need is overriden by a fucking corporation.

Some comments from Michael Moore yesterday: https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2024/12/16/michael-moore-response-united-healthcare-ceo-shooting-luigi-mangione/77020835007/

[-] rabber@lemmy.ca 127 points 1 day ago

I think it's more about class warfare than healthcare specifically. All my European friends are cheering him on too despite not experiencing hardship with healthcare

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 67 points 1 day ago

Everyone in Canada here loves him too. It’s absolutely about class warfare.

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[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago

Will it? I'm already sensing it dying down. I think we need a refresher.

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