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[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago

Well that's not going to work out.

[-] cupcakezealot 29 points 19 hours ago

performative nonsense which does nothing for kids or their mental health and harms queer kids who lose one of the first places they can find community.

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 15 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Then it seems there is something other to fix in society than making sure facebook knows anything about that kid.

The Zuckerbergers of the world aren't the ones to trust with that.

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[-] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 24 points 20 hours ago

This is just abstinence education all over again

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I always wear a condom when I log into Facebook, so I should be safe

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 4 points 19 hours ago

My child's kindergarten teacher assured me he always wears a condom while teaching, just in case.

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[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 81 points 1 day ago

Now ban parents posting pictures of their children under 16.

I DGAF about your kids.

[-] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 9 points 21 hours ago

Yeah I agree with you on this. It'll protect them from the being de-clothed using AI as well. I understand wanting to share moments with your family because kids grow up fast but sharing it with these companies as an intermediary is not a good idea. Sadly I don't have a solution for them aside from setting up a decentralized social network like Pixelfed or Frendica but that requires skill and patience.

[-] madis@lemm.ee 6 points 16 hours ago

Frankly, decentralized networks make it even harder to take content down.

[-] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Wouldn't it be easier to take content down if the app was not federated? I don't know for sure but couldn't you have a completely private instance only for the people you know?

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[-] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 13 points 20 hours ago

You know in the eyes of government, Lemmy is also social media.

[-] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

The difference being you can’t stop a federated protocol. I was being cheeky, but banning or at least regulating algorithm-based social media would do nothing but good for society. User engagement and user safety are directly at odds in a for-profit model.

[-] Magister@lemmy.world 136 points 1 day ago

teen go to website

please enter your birthdate

1/1/2000

welcome!

[-] DrunkenPirate@feddit.org 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Lawyer sues tech company

But we asked for the birthday

Lawyer points to law text

Company fined

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

I don't see many options between asking for a birthdate and asking for ID for this problem. I don't see any way that this can be enforced that isn't problematic.

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago

Facebook/Meta has developed software to estimate the age from a video.

I don’t see any way that this can be enforced that isn’t problematic.

Comes with the territory. The point is to control who has access to what information so that they don't get wrong ideas.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago

if you think AI software will be able to differentiate between a 15 year old and 16 year old then I have this cool bridge in Brooklyn that you might be interested in.

This is delusional to the point where it feels like we're literally devolving.

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[-] rcbrk@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The ban and age verification requirements apply to pretty much all services which allow communication of information between people, unless an exemption is granted by the minister.

There is no legislated exemption for instant messaging, SMS, email, email lists, chat rooms, forums, blogs, voice calls, etc.

It's a wildly broadly applicable piece of legislation that seems ripe to be abused in the future, just like we've seen with anti-terror and anti-hate-symbol legislation.

From 63C (1) of the legislation:

For the purposes of this Act, age-restricted social media platform means:

  • a) an electronic service that satisfies the following conditions:
    • i) the sole purpose, or a significant purpose, of the service is to enable online social interaction between 2 or more end-users;
    • ii) the service allows end-users to link to, or interact with, some or all of the other end-users;
    • iii) the service allows end-users to post material on the service;
    • iv) such other conditions (if any) as are set out in the legislative rules; or
  • b) an electronic service specified in the legislative rules; but does not include a service mentioned in subsection (6).

Here's all the detail of what the bill is and the concerns raised in parliament.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 9 points 23 hours ago

It's a good thing we wiped out covid and will never need students to use Zoom again!

Oh, wait

China Video Game Ban v2.0: Electric Boogaloo

Parents should be parenting, not delegate their responsibilities to a nanny state.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

That would require us paying one parent enough to cover the other parent being a child care expert. But nobody gets to profit off of that so fuck society, everybody works, and nobody gets community goods except the wealthy.

Solution is to fund a social safety net, not ban social media.

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[-] BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world 94 points 1 day ago

Now everyone gets to hand over their ids to the tech companies.

[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 51 points 1 day ago

We should make a bet how long it will take before the ID databases get leaked.

[-] A1kmm@lemmy.amxl.com 27 points 1 day ago

Australia requires mobile phone providers to verify IDs before providing cell phone service. As a result, in September 2022, Optus leaked the records of 10 million Australians including passport and drivers license details.

So negative 2 years, 2 months.

But this is just asking for more.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 day ago

It would take too long.

Making the bet that is, it would be leaked before you are done setting up the betting system.

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[-] MimicJar@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago

the rules are expected to apply to the likes of Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, and TikTok, per the Prime Minister.

Sites used for education, including YouTube, would be exempt, as are messaging apps like WhatsApp. 

The law does not require users to upload government IDs as part of the verification process.

Sounds like a pretty weak law. It will require a birthday when creating an account and accounts under the age of 16 will be restricted/limited. As a result users (people under 16) will lie about their age.

Companies don't like this because it messes with their data collection. If they collect data that proves an account is under 16 they will be required to make them limited/restricted. However they obviously collect this data already.

I wonder if Facebook and other apps will add/push education elements in order to become exempt.

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

People should lie about as much as possible to most companies they interact with online anyway (obviously don't lie to your bank, or doctor, or whatever). Do always, without fail, lie randomly about your age, gender, address (if it's not relevant) or anything else that's not actually needed to provide the service.

Any stonger, and they wander into China "Great Firewall" territory.

Lets not make every country into an authoritarian shithole.

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[-] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Good. Now block Shitter.

[-] plactagonic@sopuli.xyz 67 points 1 day ago
[-] HotBeef@feddit.uk 2 points 12 hours ago

"being angry about inaction on climate change" hahaha

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Not a bad idea all things considered

Edit: Save for the "Showing your ID" part, anonymity is healthy for the net and far too rare these days

[-] lnxtx@feddit.nl 15 points 1 day ago

Papers, please!

[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 13 points 1 day ago

Obviously there are workarounds, but I suppose it provides a good justification for parents to deny their kids access to social media.

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[-] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 17 points 1 day ago

I work tech in schools (in Australia) there are definitely tech savvy enough kids that will probably spool up their own fediverse instances

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