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The U.S. government’s road safety agency is again investigating Tesla’s “Full Self-Driving” system, this time after getting reports of crashes in low-visibility conditions, including one that killed a pedestrian.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says in documents that it opened the probe on Thursday with the company reporting four crashes after Teslas entered areas of low visibility, including sun glare, fog and airborne dust.

In addition to the pedestrian’s death, another crash involved an injury, the agency said.

Investigators will look into the ability of “Full Self-Driving” to “detect and respond appropriately to reduced roadway visibility conditions, and if so, the contributing circumstances for these crashes.”

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[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Fuck Elon musk.

But self-driving is one of the most needed technologies to aim for in the near future. And it's a shame that as American space industry it has , apparently, let be in the hands of a lunatic.

The potential to reduce road mortality. And to give back to humans thousands of hours back of their time (you can do other things while not driving).

I don't really care about the philosophical question on who is to blame if a self driving car run over one person if road mortality got statistically reduced by a big value thanks to the technology.

The anti technology I see on some supposedly progressive people nowadays really scares me. Bad omen. It's like having a choice between rich conservatives and poor conservatives, but only conservatives nonetheless.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Be easier to automate various types of rail.

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

As stated in other comment of mine. Public transport/walkikg is good for high density cities.

Not everyone would be happy living in such environment. I fact I think most people won't. Low density environment have a need for cars. And I think if cars are needed, they'd better be electric and self driving.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Then it's a difference of opinion, I think they would be happier with better public transport.

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It could be measured I suppose.

Giving completely free will without economic pressure most people would chose one environment or the other.

I suppose there's enough statistical data on the world to make such analysis. Not that I'm going to do it. But I think it could be measurable what people chose when money is not a factor, as in I need to live X because I don't have money to live in Y.

Anyway it's almost a fact that there would be people that would love to live in one place and some people on the other. So best solution could probably be good public transport in the city and self driving cars in the countryside.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I think a lack of availability is what is stopping the free market from choosing the better form of transportation.

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[-] demizerone@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

I purchased FSD when it was 8k. What a crock of shit. When I sold the car, that was this only gave the car value after 110k miles and it was only $1500 at most.

[-] zante@lemmy.wtf 9 points 11 months ago

Does anyone else find this enraging ?

It’s a decade too late.

[-] telllos@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

In five years guys!!

[-] tekato@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

This is why you can’t have an AI make decisions on activities that could kill someone. AI models can’t say “I don’t know”, every input is forced to be classified as something they’ve seen before, effectively hallucinating when the input is unknown.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Maybe have a safety feature that refuses to engage self drive if it's too foggy/rainy/snowy.

[-] bcgm3@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Inb4 someone on TikTok shows how to bypass that sensor by jamming an orange in it -__-

[-] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

They need to just ban this technolgy from cars and semis entirely.

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