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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by chalkman@sh.itjust.works to c/main@sh.itjust.works

The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don't think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.

Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the "second in command"

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[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If we're losing our minds over ~20 active users, then we have way bigger problems than that instance.

EDIT: Just to be clear, I have no issues defederating with an instance like that. I just don't think it matters much either way.

[-] arkcom@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago

They've probably gotten more clicks from this thread than they have in their entire existence.

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[-] madception@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Isn't it just better to do it on your own accord?

If you do not wish they mingle with you, block the community you do dislike. You can even block individual person.

If you do not want to participate in theirs, just don't visit them.

Defederating is extreme, it takes liberties and freedom from other users, and should only be used as last resort.

EDIT: @eta_aquarid, why you are discussing this instances meta, you are from kbin.social? And then why you blocking me? Is there some sort of brigade going on here?

EDIT2: So many other unrelated instances' user come in here. Wow. There are some coordinated attacks to make sh.itjust.works worse huh?

KBIN.SOCIAL PEOPLE: This https://kbin.social/m/main@sh.itjust.works/t/39264/Hey-could-we-defederate-with-exploding-heads-com#comments means it is HOSTED on sh.itjust.works instance! It is NOT kbin.social post! Even if you can see from your instance!

[-] damon@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago

Wtf, what liberties and freedoms does it take from anyone? No one has the right to anyone’s attention nor any instance. They aren’t being blocked from using the software.

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[-] Ozma_of_Oz@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

There's no way I'm going to read all of that but I scanned it and caught a "I have many gay friends" and said ayup, there it is.

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[-] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 years ago

I'd like to decide for myself what I want to see and what not, as an adult.

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[-] lixus98@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago

Hey kbin users if you want to block this domain just go to https://kbin.social/d/exploding-heads.com and block that domain there.

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[-] rektifier@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 years ago

Let's wait for per-user instance filters to be implemented, then everyone can block instances to taste. As long as their users don't cause trouble in our communities, there's no need for our instance to act as a moral guardians and decide what our users can and cannot see. Defederation is a nuclear option that should only be done if their instance is disrupting our instance's operation (spamming and breaking rules while in our communities).

I like that sh.itjust.works currently federates with almost everyone, and I can see a big part of the fediverse from here. It would suck having to visit multiple instance to see the whole fediverse.

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[-] ohheywei@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago

Just as an outside observer - a lot of people from reddit are out searching for a new home. Convos like these will set the tone for every new entrant so you have the opportunity now, before it all goes really big like reddit, to shape a community based on mutual aid, love, earnestness instead of one focusing on building capital at any cost.

There are so so many socially conservative sites and spaces fully dedicated to those communities, big enough that even normal media covers them. But how many Gabs or Parlers exist out there for marginalized people, how many communities are willing to do the hard work of ensuring there could be a beloved community where hatred and minimization is curtailed, who don't act according to the will of private investors demanding incessant growth?

I hope there can be spaces like that which can grow from a watershed moment like this. It would be really cool if it were this one 😌

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[-] L0Wigh@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 years ago

Defedarating for political reasons seems stupid to me. If it's proven that the community is toxic and full of trolls, that is an argument to do it. Anyways, as other said, for now I don't think we really need some more defedaration drama

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Listen cupcake, you wanted decentralized freedom. This is what it looks like. People you don't agree with exist. Grow a pair and block them yourself.

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[-] carrot@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No, don't defederate. Just because an instance doesn't align politically with your views doesn't mean that they have to be gone. And we should definetly avoid a mastodon blocklist situation.

If you refuse to meet someone on level ground because you consider them intolerant of your own ideas, you're the one being intolerant.

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[-] Thrillhouse@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

I agree holy shit I went there today and there was some hateful af stuff

[-] InfiniteVariables@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

IDK why people are thinking he's gonna de-federate for transphobia when he has allowed the matt walsh documentary to sit on his instance for days now

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