Is there any possible way you'd ever vote Republican? If not, remember that there are people like that on the opposite side. You're always going to have single issue voters. A huge example is anti abortion advocates voting Republican. If someone genuinely believes abortion is murdering a baby they aren't going to care how good a candidate looks in a debate.

Why is he still in the race or why are his supporters?

For him I think it's obvious. Narcissism and the fact that he has a lot of federal crimes in the courts that he can stop when he is elected.

His supporters are more complicated. He pretty decently still owns the GOP so even if they are getting cold feet, they don't seem to have a plan to overthrow him. I feel like they are planning on just stonewalling for 4 more years and then try to win the next one and cut the checks to the billionaires then.

I got nothing on his base though. I haven't understood them for 10 years now. Not sure I ever will.

If you can believe it, Trump supporters will accept the Ohio immigrant pet eating story as true.

Somehow media is pitching the "moderate position" as halfway between anywhere within the normal range of political positions and the crazy positions.

Judging by some of my distant acquaintances it’s something along the lines of HURR DURR GASOLINE WAS CHEAPER 8 YEARS AGO. They focus on a global commodity of all things.

Seriously, the only stuff I’ve seen from them that even approaches a policy comparison rather than “lol black lady is a ho” caliber stuff revolves around money. And some of that might actually be a valid discussion if it were correct and if it weren’t for the absurd amount of other issues.

It’s just a low-information team sport, regardless of how insane reality is.

Whole two party system, we vs them sport mentality has fucked their brains up.

"Donald Trump makes me, a white christian, feel like I'm important."

The GOP's desperation for relevancy in a world where literally every problem can be blamed on Republicans

I would look into the “polls” and how realistic they actually are and who has paid for them.

Also don’t forget that the media has great interest in trump since he creates so much news with his bullshit. Newspapers don’t sell with headlines like “politician does something normal and expected”.

Fuck the mainstream media, they will love a trump administration and its utter depravity.

Best thing I’ve heard all week is Swift siding with Harris. If the young actually vote, whatever this form of the Republican Party is will be dead.

Lowered the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21% (lowest in history).

Obvious tax cuts for the rich.

That's all his financiers hear.

Constantly attacks marginalized groups.

That's all his voters hear.

Everything else goes in one ear and out the other, muddied up with enough "whataboutism" and "both sides" rhetoric from the financiers to keep the voters from actually considering alternative options.

Amerikkkans.

the only reasonable answer, is literally fascism and a deluded right wing in america.

See my previous comment on another thread for additional context if you please.

Welcome to the post truth era. Nothing matters except the way it makes you feel. Ignorance is strength and rage is fuel. If it feels good it's true, if it challenges your paradigm, it's fake news. This phenom is not exclusive to Republicans but they sure do excel at it.

Because his voters don't believe any of the points you make about him. Trump is able to dismiss any criticism of him as "fake news." You can make any legitimate point about him and they will never believe it.

probably the same drive that will make him a candidate in the 2028 election. 😁🙂

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We Taught This Chimpanzee to Understand the American Political System and He Hanged Himself

There's a lot of reasons people have already mentioned, but I'll add this.

Your applying logic and reasoning to people who are illogical and unreasonable...

Half of America wants a fascist state, unfortunately.

It's as if this nation has deep internal divisions following a badly wrapped up civil war that have metastasized into irreconcilable worldviews.

It's a race between junk food vs. an actual meal. Junk food is easy and self indulgent, real food requires time and effort. It doesn't matter that junk food is a terrible value and lacks any nutrition. The Trump people choose junk, conservatives choose Trump people because the Trump people are mathematically mandatory to maintain their caste.

Spite is a powerful motivator. Both for Trump himself, and also for his supporters.

At one time it would have sounded like a conspiracy theory, but you don't get here without a massive disinformation campaign.

Trump's supporters have been so programmed to accept everything he says at face value or, in some cases, just to ignore what he actually said in favor of the party's updated spin. In all cases, they believe it is impossible that he could do any wrong, so any semblance of incongruity or poor leadership or any negative aspect of Trump at all must be due to lies of his opponents -- even if that means the entire system would have to be rigged against him to an extremely unlikely degree.

The last time the world saw these tactics used to such an extreme extent and with such success required a widespread campaign of so-called "denazification" after a very prolonged war.

"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled"

After someone has been convinced of something, it's very hard to convince them that they were wrong because now their ego is on the line. And the longer amount of time they've believed what Trump says then the harder it will be to convince them that he's a lying con man, because they'd have to admit to themselves and their community that they were massively conned. And they would to some degree have to even question whether their entire worldview is wrong.

Questioning your own ideas and trying to determine if you've been wrong about something takes a lot of openness maturity and emotional intelligence, which are things conservatives statistically are not good at

This video explains it all in 19 words. Democracy relies on intelligent, informed choice. Republican voters typically lack one or both.