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[-] EmperorHenry@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Okay, so the creator of Brave might be a bigot and some of the stuff it does with crypto currency is a little sketchy? And the ads it replaces with the blocked ads are somewhat invasive?

So disable the crypto stuff and use ad-blocking software along with its own adblocking functions.

If a mechanic fixes my car and does a really good job, but he might have some shitty opinions of gay people, as long as he fixes my car I don't care about what he might think of gay people.

Everyone needs to be aware that there's propaganda everywhere. microsoft and google REALLY want you to use their browsers and people are tired of the data MS Edge and chrome collect.

I for one, hate that chrome constantly connects other shit to your google account with just one accidental click sometimes. Edge does the same shit, but brave is the only chromium based browser that doesn't deceptively do shit like that.

I still like firefox better and I only have brave for those rare instances where firefox won't work on a website. And I don't actually believe that the creator of brave is actually a bigot. Pro-liberty, Pro-privacy and anti-surveillance types are always getting smeared as bigots when they aren't.

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[-] alvanrahimli@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, there are the ame stuff about Firefox too. Mozilla Foundation is such a corrupt organization with extreme shady finances.

Foundation's main income is royalties by google: 567M per year.

Donations: 7M (which almost goes to the CEO's bonuses)

the CEO gets 700K salary and 4.6M bonuses. Lmao.

I'd suggest, using Firefox but not donating to them.

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[-] pottedmeat7910@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

I started using Brave about a year ago... I didn't know any of this.

The Prop 8 stuff is enough of a reason for me. Firefox it is, I guess.

[-] rodolfo@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

I've read the article via Firefox, with NoScript enabled. Am I doing this right?

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[-] dbilitated@aussie.zone 33 points 1 year ago

urghhhhh but firefox just doesn't perform as well. i tried, i really did. i found a 15 year old (!!) bug affecting svg drawing performance that was fucking up a page i was working on, i'm not imagining it.

I'm not sure if it's the same one but i just found a similar bug with a five year old comment saying i guess we're not fixing it anytime soon... https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483868

I do have it installed and check in occasionally but it feels like a downgrade when i try to use it as a daily driver.

is there any way to get a functional de-googled chromium build with settings sync across devices?

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 33 points 1 year ago

That seems like an extremely niche issue.

[-] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The sentiment feels on point however, that this users experience with Firefox has been poor and issues flagged have not resolved in an eternity. I've definitely felt similar exhaustion with other systems.

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[-] xaxl@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Just because something is open source doesn't mean the people behind it have the best intentions in mind.

[-] Virkkunen@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago

I think one of the biggest issues with FOSS-minded people is that they automatically consider open source software private, safe and having good intentions in mind, but they never actually go beyond the surface to check if it actually is.

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[-] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 1 year ago

The writer is proposing Vivaldi, a closed-source browser, as an alternative to Brave, which is free and open-source. I think a better alternative would be Ungoogled Chromium.

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[-] ShouldntHaveSaidThat@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just gonna leave this here... https://privacytests.org/

Edit: After reading the article I'm sceptical about a bias as the writer clearly misrepresented the lawsuit against Gawker by Hulk Hogan, which in turn puts the whole article into question.

Not saying that the allegations against Brave aren't true, I'm just saying I wouldn't trust a journalist who misrepresents the truth to tell me the truth.

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[-] ooli@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

That 1k donation, from years ago, is very usefull to someone. I dont know who cares so much to destroy this Brave founder, but that story for a 1k donation keep being repeated over and over.

Some people gave millions to have trans right banned.. we never hear about thoses people. But 1k, big deal!

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[-] mirror_slap@lemmy.film 27 points 1 year ago

Well, fork, I hadn't looked at this team behind Brave. I use both Firefox and Brave. Bye bye Brave...

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Maybe it's me but some of the things in this articles make me question their reporting.

What makes sense to me is that they have been involved with some shady crypto companies and they have been opaque about their goals, with some of the developers disagreeing with the CEO every now and again.

What rubs me the wrong way is the focus on his own political viewpoint (this is holy irrelevant to the software), his involvement with FTX (almost no one saw the collapse coming. It was one of only a few crypto companies that people didn't expect to be that shady) and getting a cease and desist from a newspaper corporation (this is much expected and frankly idk if the cease and desist even holds up. This is not as shady as the article makes it out to be and legally this is not cotton dry at all iirc. IANAL tho ofc)

I agree it's not the best idea to mindlessly go on using Brave, but honestly this article is really not that good.

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[-] MaxMouseOCX@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I just read an article about a browser... That somehow included a court case about hulk hogan being gay or not... I had to stop right there lol.

[-] UmbrellAssassin@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Such a brave article. So brave that they turned off the comments when people started bringing up valid criticisms against it. Such a cop out.

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[-] zerbey@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I stopped using Brave over the whole BAT thing, it just felt shady and weird. This article just validated my decision even more. Happy to be back with Firefox, even though Mozilla has its own issues.

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[-] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I've been trying out the DuckDuckGo browser lately on mobile. It uses the Chromium backend, so some sites work better in it than in my normal Firefox.

The neatest feature of the browser is the ability to generate random email addresses in signup forms, and those emails all get forwarded to your real email address. As it forwards the emails, it removes trackers from them. You can click a link in one of the forwarded emails to disable that address from being forwarded any more if it gets spammy.

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[-] anonymouslemmy@feddit.nl 26 points 1 year ago

I think that the number 1 reason to not use brave is that is based on the chromium engine. The number 2 is that they use limited anti fingerprinting tools and support his self built tracking and ads. The others about ideology of the CEO i think are not so important.

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[-] CaptainStrider@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Firefox works well enough for me. Never given me any problems or grief. I don't really understand the fascination with chromium forks or the insistence on using them instead of Mozilla's engine.

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[-] SireCaesar@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

Don't use Brave because of the ads and crypto currency stuff

I don't see why how one person even the CEO and founder's political beliefs from 15 years ago should stop anyone from using a product today. Unless we want to expose all 7 million+ people who voted for and passed prop 8 in 2008 and cancel them all into oblivion.

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[-] iesou@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

Wtf is spacebar.news. where do you find sites like this?

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[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Soooo... bad PR = bad browser... advertising bad, crypto bad, source of funds bad, anti gay marriage guy bad.... meh I get the reasoning here but.. it's a bit of a reach

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[-] Clbull@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think we have far bigger problems than Brendan Eich in the tech industry. Far more people have suffered or died in recent years from tax cuts and austerity lobbied by by some of the biggest billionaires (i.e. Zuckerberg, Gates, Ballmer, Musk, Bezos) than from the causes Eich has funded.

Can we truly call ourselves humanitarians when we continue to lap up everything that big tech gives to us?

At best, we're hypocrites for cancelling Eich whilst simultaneously sweeping issues like worker exploitation, political/medical disinformation, erosion of privacy, etc from the rest of big tech under the rug.

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[-] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Out of the box Firefox is definitely not very privacy conscious, better than Chrome no doubt, but worse than Brave. It can be configured to be better than both or one can use Librewolf/Mullvad browser

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[-] gunpachi@lemmings.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you put aside the crypto crap, Brave is an okay browser. Sometimes I use it for web development. But I don't like the direction the company is heading towards.

Most of the time I use Firefox with Extensions and Librewolf for everything. Firefox has been my go-to for years and I sure hope it stays that way.

[-] Usanam@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago
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[-] instamat@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

I just deleted it on my phone. All roads lead back to Firefox.

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