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When I first started this show I found it to be a really awkward mix of comedy and seriousness. It had some jokes thrown it at the most inopportune times as some kind of comic relief from a really serious situation. Perhaps the first half of the first season was actually a bit rough or maybe the show just grew on me, but by season 2 I found myself loving this show.

To me it seems as every bit as comfy, intellectually interesting and even funny as some classic Star Treks while still clearly being its own thing. I wish more comfy space shows like this would get made.

What are your thoughts on The Orville? Also I miss Alara.

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[-] acow@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago

I wanted to like it, but didn’t get through S1. I found the humor so uneven that it made the whole thing almost uncomfortable. Is it an irreverent parody, sci-fi, slightly crude comedy, or is it Star Trek? It’s all of those things, and I’m happy folks enjoyed it. I’ll try to revisit at some point, but for now I’m so happy that Strange New Worlds is as surprisingly excellent as it is. For me, it nails the mixture of lightheartedness, sci-fi adventure, and earnestness that I like in Star Trek.

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[-] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Best show ever. I almost peed myself when Ed Mercer tried to eat those stones in the admiral's office in the first episode. Took me like 5minutes of the first episode to love it. And it has so many good episodes, etical dilemmas and thought provoking stories. And I like the Moclans. And i like the storytelling. Especially that most stories take one episode.

[-] neomis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

One of my favorite moments was when they were trying to teach Isaac about pranks and he removed Malloy’s leg.

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[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The humor, humanizes it. TOS was great. But often a bit sterile and preachy. Still fascinating and a good watch. But nowhere near are relatable.

A lot of people were concerned that it was gonna be family guy in space. With all the toilet humor that involves. But honesty it was all tasteful, generally witty. And mostly seemed to genuinely add to the episodes.

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[-] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago
[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago

I wish they chose their show's personality and stuck with it. I liked it when it leaned into the comedy, and I kind of liked it a bit more serious but willing to take on topics ST wasn't willing to. But It's really hard to accept the change mid way through the series.

Generally good though.

[-] Sassel@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

This is a good show that is trying very hard not to be a great show. I would love to see it explode with popularity more than it already has.

[-] Adalast@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Love the coincidence, I am actually watching "Twice in a Lifetime" right now. I love the show so much. In many ways I see it as a more realistic Star Trek. The characters are flawed, they bicker and squabble and make bad decisions so often that they can't feel guilty for them or else it would crush them. I adore Star Trek, but the writing and characterizations in Orville are so relatable for me. The people are projections of my friends and family, for better or worse.

Also, at least the actress who played Alara got to date Seth Macfarlane.

[-] vis4valentine@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

I like it a lot. I hope there's a season 4.

[-] aram@aoir.social 8 points 1 year ago

@Izzy true fact: Seth McFarlane developed the show after his friend and collaborator Ahmed Best (of Star Wars) pitched him the idea of a comedic Star Trek clone. It was called "The Nebula." I know because I was personally pitching the sizzle reel for the pilot to branded entertainment clients in 2009.

[-] masterairmagic@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

We owe the Orville to JarJar Binks?

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[-] cloudy1999@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As a long time Star Trek fan, I love this show. It really is better than a lot of modern Trek. Reading all these comments makes me want to engage in the watching event.

Edit: spelling

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[-] tox_solid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I might give it a shot if it weren't for Seth McFarlane. The dude is the antithesis of comedy.

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[-] Apeman42@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

It counts as Star Trek in my personal canon. Really hope season 4 happens.

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[-] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I had fun with it, and thought it had a pretty solid ending for the last season.

[-] ScrivenerX@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I was surprised by how good season one was. Season two was great fun. I hated season three.

I feel they tried too hard to make serious points and failed at telling good stories. They wanted to have big thoughts, but just weren't entertaining.

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[-] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I named my kid after one of the characters.

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[-] hglman@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Season 3 was not good; it was heavy-handed writing and wasn't all that good drama.

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Cheesy but a different kind of cheesy than Star Trek.

[-] db2@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It had some jokes thrown it at the most inopportune times

That's Seth humor in a nutshell.

Perhaps the first half of the first season was actually a bit rough

Name a show that started off any other way though. Even SG1 is cringe in the first season. Lexx maybe, but even that one grew different after the first few episodes.

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[-] yeather@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

Great show in my opinion, liked season one and season two, while not so into season three until Charlie died. Definitely the highlight of that season.

[-] effingfaroh@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I did it backwards and started watching Star Trek shows because I love The Orville so much! Hoping it gets renewed for another season soon.

[-] cspiegel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

When The Orville came out, I hadn't watched much Star Trek. Growing up, TNG was the one television show that my parents would break the "no TV at the dinner table" rule for, though it happened rarely enough that I really have no memory of it.

About 20 years ago I watched several episodes of TOS and liked it well enough.

I always wanted to like Star Trek, so ~10 years ago I tried season 1 of TNG, which I now realize is rather universally considered an error; and as a result, I didn't much care for TNG. But I still wanted to like it, and Star Trek in general! So when I saw The Orville, I decided to give it a shot. And while I agree that the early mix of comedy with more serious material was a bit off-putting, I thoroughly enjoyed the show. This was what TNG was trying to be (I mean, that's not really fair, but it was my initial sense).

Which then led me to season 3 of TNG, which I started watching last year. And I absolutely love it, and find it overall better than The Orville (which I still really like); but The Orville was basically my gateway to actually enjoying Star Trek.

So maybe I'm coming inside-out from most viewers, but I really like The Orville, and as a bonus, it got me "back" into Star Trek proper.

[-] Gbagginsthe3rd@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago

It took me a few episodes. But now I think it’s entertaining and wholesome!

It’s my utopia of what humans could become in the future

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[-] Riker_Maneuver@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago

While I don't regret watching it—and I'd probably even throw on a new season if it gets one—I felt like it was missing any true classic episodes. I also kept having this strange sense of familiarity with episodes, as if it was just repurposing or rehashing older Star Trek plots.

I kept thinking, "Wasn't there a TNG/DS9/Whatever episode that explored this same general concept/idea, but better?". It felt like it was maybe borrowing just a bit too much from it's inspiration.

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[-] Lanthanae 6 points 1 year ago

Entertainment wise, I find it to be very fun to watch and am always engaged while I have it on.

Thematically, I think it has either a bad or watered down argument sometimes, but other times I think it really hits. Either way though, I find the way it approaches certain ideas very interesting and compelling to discuss with my SO while we watch it, so even when I don't agree with the thematic intent of the episode, I find it worthwhile to interact with.

That said, it did make me cringe a little bit for the first 2 episodes. They're still worth watching for context instead of skipping them, but don't make any judgements on it until episode 3.

All in all, I give it a 8.5/10 personally but a 7/10 critically.

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