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[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 154 points 4 months ago

It would have been nice if they came up with something shorter like .lan.

[-] Deebster@programming.dev 95 points 4 months ago

Oh, that's LAN - I thought you'd put ian and I was trying to get the joke. Stupid sans-serif fonts.

[-] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

First pictures of him sleeping now he has a TLD

[-] r00ty@kbin.life 112 points 4 months ago

Sorry. I chose .local and I'm sticking to it.

[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 55 points 4 months ago

I switched from .local to .honk and I'm never looking back.

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 9 points 4 months ago
[-] xcjs@programming.dev 30 points 4 months ago

I was using .local, but it ran into too many conflicts with an mDNS service I host and vice versa. I switched to .lan, but I'm certainly not going to switch to .internal unless another conflict surfaces.

I've also developed a host-monitoring solution that uses mDNS, so I'm not about to break my own software. 😅

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 18 points 4 months ago

.internal takes to long to type

[-] xcjs@programming.dev 10 points 4 months ago

Yeah, that's why I started using .lan.

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[-] chrisbit@leminal.space 24 points 4 months ago

It's also second only to .com in terms of query volume in ICANN's Magnitude statistics with 980 mil vs .internal's 60 mil. Not sure if that makes it a de facto standard, but it's close.

[-] justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 4 months ago

I went with .home and so far the problems are within reason

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[-] dhtseany@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 months ago

I still haven't heard a convincing argument to not use .local and I see no reason to stop.

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 27 points 4 months ago

.local is already used by mDNS/Zeroconf.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

You mean mDNS/Zeroconf are using a tld that was already being used.

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[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 72 points 4 months ago

It should be reserved for sex toys.

Just saying.

[-] Bluefruit@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

What are you doing step-LAN?

[-] devfuuu@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Please don't use the duplex again.

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[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 months ago

I used to wonder why porn sites aren't required to use '.cum' instead of '.com'...

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

The original 3, “.cum”, “.nut”, and “.orgasm”.

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[-] solrize@lemmy.world 53 points 4 months ago

Browsers barf at non https now. What are we supposed to do about certificates?

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 28 points 4 months ago

If you mean properly signed certificates (as opposed to self-signed) you'll need a domain name, and you'll need your LAN DNS server to resolve a made-up subdomain like lan.domain.com. With that you can get a wildcard Let's Encrypt certificate for *.lan.domain.com and all your https://whatever.lan.domain.com URLs will work normally in any browser (for as long as you're on the LAN).

[-] solrize@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

Right, main point of my comment is that .internal is harder to use that it immediately sounds. I don't even know how to install a new CA root into Android Firefox. Maybe there is a way to do it, but it is pretty limited compared to the desktop version.

[-] cereals@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

You can't install a root CA in Firefox for android.

You have to install the cert in android and set Firefox to use the android truststore.

You have to go in Firefox settings>about Firefox and tap the Firefox logo for a few times. You then have a hidden menu where you can set Firefox to not use its internal trust store.

You then have to live with a permanent warning in androids quick setting that your traffic might be captured because of the root ca you installed.

It does work, but it sucks.

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[-] BlueBockser@programming.dev 21 points 4 months ago

Nothing, this is not about that.

This change gives you the guarantee that .internal domains will never be registered officially, so you can use them without the risk of your stuff breaking should ICANN ever decide to make whatever TLD you're using an official TLD.

That scenario has happened in the past, for example for users of FR!TZBox routers which use fritz.box. .box became available for purchase and someone bought fritz.box, which broke browser UIs. This could've even been used maliciously, but thankfully it wasn't.

[-] egonallanon@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago

Either ignore like I do or add a self signed cert to trusted root and use that for your services. Will work fine unless you're letting external folks access your self hosted stuff.

[-] rushaction@programming.dev 10 points 4 months ago

Quite literally my first thought. Great, but I can't issue certs against that.

One of the major reasons I have a domain name is so that I can issue certs that just work against any and all devices. For resources on my network. Home or work, some thing.

To folks recommending a private CA, that's a quick way to some serious frustration. For some arguably good reasons. On some devices I could easily add a CA to, others are annoying or downright bullshit, and yet others are pretty much impossible. Then that last set that's the most persnickety, guests, where it'd be downright rude!

Being able to issue public certs is easily is great! I don't use .local much because if it's worth naming, it's worth securing.

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[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 40 points 4 months ago

Why do I care what ICANN says I can do on my own network? It's my network, I do what I want.

[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago

Try using .com for your internal network and watch the problems arise. Their choice to reserve .internal helps people avoid fqdn collisions.

See also https://traintocode.com/stop-using-test-dot-com/

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[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 months ago

Certain domain names are locally routed only. So if you use internal or local as a tld, you can just assign whatever names you want and your computer won't go looking out on the internet for them. This means you and I can both have fileserver.local as an address on our respective network without conflicting. It's the URI equivalent of 192.168.0.0/16.

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[-] ygpa@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

YouCANN do anything you want?

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 33 points 4 months ago
[-] EarMaster@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago

But what if your name is not Ian...

[-] ziggurat@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Then change it Ian!

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[-] 486@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago

That's good, I never liked the clunky .home.arpa domain.

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[-] Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
CA (SSL) Certificate Authority
DNS Domain Name Service/System
HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web
HTTPS HTTP over SSL
IP Internet Protocol
SSL Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption
TLS Transport Layer Security, supersedes SSL
VPN Virtual Private Network

6 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 6 acronyms.

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[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 months ago

Took long enough

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Missed the opportunity for .myshit.

[-] Violet_McQuasional@feddit.uk 14 points 4 months ago

Interesting. I've been using ".home.arpa" for a while now, since that's one of the other often used ways.

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[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 4 months ago

Next up!

ICANN approves use of .awesome-selfhosted domain for your network

[-] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago

Thank god. Now iOS will finally recognize it

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago

Woohoo! We internal now! No more FQDN collisions!

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

I guess no one offered anything for .internal

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