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submitted 10 months ago by xnx@slrpnk.net to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/26211900

[Transphobia Warning] Nutomic’s Stance on Transgender People

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[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 8 points 10 months ago

So many things I'd have to look up to understand what's going on and why this is supposedly transphobic.

What bothers me more is private discussions being aired publicly.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 5 points 10 months ago

A participant in the conversation chose to share, so your entire argument is bullshit

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[-] jwr1@kbin.earth 8 points 10 months ago

I've said before that I could add piefed support to Interstellar (it already had Lemmy and mbin support). The only thing I need is an api.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So, for context

  • this is one of admins of lemmy . ml.
  • that instance’s first rule is

No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.

  • This person is also one of the core devs of lemmy

Because, IMO, fedi drama is almost always overstated and overblown, especially when it comes to specific “incidents” … because we’ve gotten addicted to social media drama/rage …

I’ll provide my own impression without any context, pretending I’m a relevant moderator

  • it seems they’re challenging the notion that the same culture can be both pro-trans and anti-trans at the same time.
  • which seems superficial unless it’s about a specific incident
  • they seem to think that the Olympic boxer that’s caused an incident is actually born biologically male but is a trans female, and cite as much as proof that the west is not wholly anti-trans
  • my own impression is that the boxer being biologically male is mostly rumour and accusation, but I’m not close to the story at all and can understand how someone not following the olympics would conclude that they’re trans
  • without context I’m not sure I could conclude whether this is transphobic, at all actually.
  • Probably misinformed, but I’m also not informed on that issue, which also seems to be a moving “story”.
  • The user’s perspective is also relevant here, where being a known communist, they’re likely to think anything the west does is flawed and always boils down to class issues.
  • so given that it’s a sensitive topic, I’d follow up the comment with an attempt to frame the sensitivity of the issue and ask the author to consider editing their comment or reconsidering their stance just to flag the potentially transphobic reading of the comment.

Here’s the killer though … this seems like it’s a private message in response to a query … in which case I’m not sure there’s any moderation to be done and without more I’m not convinced this transphobic at all.

[-] cupcakezealot 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

that ~~post~~message from nutomic is a classic demonstration of the horseshoe theory.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Bourgeoisie means the middle class, it's frustrating that term has become incorrectly popularized as "those in power" or "the upper crust".

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