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[-] Ertebolle@kbin.social 136 points 1 year ago

This feels very much like an /r/thathappened post

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 100 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As a running enthusiast whose varied from running ~25 miles a week to having to restart from nothing, what the guy is talking about is extremely common. I've followed many different plans from many runners, sometimes their names are attached, sometimes not, and most of them I couldn't tell you what they look like. I will say Olympic runners are the most common. I've even come across hers. Nothing about this rings as implausible to someone remotely interested in the topic. I guess I could understand from a total outsider perspective, but from someone who looks into that topic often? Absolutely plausible. I see no reason not to believe them.

Edit: the amount of stories Tony Hawk posts like this and never gets questioned also just makes me wonder a bit about why multiple people have already commented the way you did.

[-] PownyRyda@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't a guy analyze a guy's training instead of a women's? I don't run but I'd imagine that training would be at least a little different for women than it is for men.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

Not really. I'm sure elite performers, possibly. But training plans aren't generally gendered from anything I've come across.

[-] Ghoti@geddit.social 18 points 1 year ago

I’ve never paid attention to the sex or gender identity of who writes training programs if the credentials check out

[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Or maybe he's an analyst.

[-] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

I've never come across anyone that just pulls out a training schedule when I say "I run".

Usually there's some follow up questions about goals, training, whatever.

But just straight up grabbing your phone and pulling out a training schedule? THAT'S the implausible part, not that he was using her training schedule.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago

You have no idea what the conversation is. It was boiled down to "I run." Why are you going out of your way to assume a whole bunch of stuff that isn't mentioned?

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[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You find it unlikely that someone who runs at the Olympic level would be amongst people that are likely to nerd out about their training schedules?

[-] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure the Tony Hawk thing is like a running joke, I’m not sure how many of those are legit at this point. I still laugh at them all.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 70 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This feels very much like a /r/nothingeverhappens comment.

[-] danwardvs@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 year ago

Inside you there are two wolves.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

God damn it Moon Moon.

[-] Repossess6855@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago

One smokes crack, The other smokes crack.

You are addicted to crack.

[-] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

It's a good day at the Furry convention.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Oh damn, so I'm not a lone wolf?

[-] yokonzo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Please don’t make meta reference comments a thing here, I beg you

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Feels a lot like /r/subredditdrama

[-] normalmighty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

/r/ reference comments are littered all over comments sections on sites like YouTube and TikTok despite not linking anywhere when outside of reddit. Do you really think there's any chance of it not catching on here?

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[-] average650@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago

Why not tell him? Who wouldn't love that?

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago

Someone who makes assumptions about women and confidently tells them how they should be doing the things they are already doing.

[-] average650@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

Just sounds to me like he's passionate about something. I guess he could be an ass, but to jump to that conclusion from just "you should train high milage" and then providing analysis is really a bit much.

[-] OurTragicUniverse@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I take it you're not a woman or afab presenting then? Go ask a woman you trust to tell you what it means when a man starts explaining her hobbies to her as if she doesn't understand them.

[-] average650@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Man, guys do this to everyone because they care about what they do. I've had guys do it to me and I love it because we can have a passionate conversation then.

Look, if after she revealed who she was he dismissed her, then yeah, he's an ass and the conversation is a waste of time. But, I know a lot of guys who would do exactly this and then be really excited to talk to her and learn about her experiences, myself included.

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[-] Dangdoggo@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

This doesn't sound like a mansplain scenario to me, I think the guy was just happy to talk running (and also might not exist). So if a woman says they run I should say "well I'm sure you know everything there is to know about that. No need for further discussion." ? Sounds fucking dull.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

You can ask about experiences before launching into a 3-year training regimen, you know.

[-] Nerivis@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This thread is full of mountains of projection trying to explain why it’s fine and probably great that the guy in the OP did this.

But of course only one person involved in the whole post was actually there: the woman who made the tweet. Do you think that tweet is coming from someone who had to deal with a friendly-but-passionate dude explaining training techniques?

Could be, but the language of her tweet suggests annoyance.

Also your suggested response is equally obnoxious. It’s pretty simple: if she says she runs you ask more about it—“oh what kind of running do you do?”

What you definitely do not say is “you should be doing X” without asking what kind of training they already do. Seems obvious.

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[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not really. Unsolicited advice can be very condescending. You're telling them that info because you don't believe they know it. Just ask them how familiar they are on the topic if it's truly from a place of passion. Cause passionate or not, if they already know the info, it's annoying to listen to someone just spout about something you already know. And it's worse if they just assumed you didn't know.

Edit: also, I'd take her opinion on the situation over yours any day. She decided that it would have someone not gone over well for the guy, so I'd imagine she had a reason. You're the one assuming she acted without reason which is truly odd.

[-] average650@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

So, tell them about yourself. They're a stranger, they're going to get a lot of assumptions wrong, so what? Conversations can't begin without making some assumptions. It's only a problem when they start to ignore what you say.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

She was under the impression he wouldn't take it well. Why would you know the situation better than her?

[-] average650@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

There may well be other context not communicated in the post that changes things. All I'm saying, is that based off this, it just sounds like he's passionate about something and maybe she missed out on a good conversation. Of course, I could be wrong and more context may change things.

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[-] Zorque@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

I mean, if the recommendations were prompted, sure. But if he just starts telling her what she should be doing without prompting, its that whole "mansplaining" thing I heard about.

Admittedly we only have her context, he could have just been passionately recounting his own routines and she may have misinterpreted it, or exaggerated for effect and humor.

[-] Saneless@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Probably more along the lines of "I found this amazing program, check this out"

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[-] Ryan213@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

I find this hard to believe...if the guy's doing analysis, he'd surely know who she was. He'd be a big enough "fan" of running to even start doing analysis. Man, the internet is just full of BS.

Anyway, I'll pretend this was real and it's kinda funny.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Absolutely not. I've followed plans and couldn't tell you what the person looks like. It's usually not about knowing a lot about the person but the popularity of the plan. And I've come across hers so at least in my opinion, it's a common one. I find this no different than the countless stories Tony Hawk says that border the same concept. He just gets believed a lot more easily for whatever reason.

[-] noqturn@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

Idk, I’d believe it. I’ve been involved in a few sports to the point that I’m doing deep diving into elites trainings out of curiousity. For some athletes, the only picture I would see is a small thumbnail profile pic that was basically indecipherable, or they would be in athletic gear with hats and such. I definitely wouldn’t recognize them on the street, and it would be a crap shoot if I’d recognize them on an airplane. The only ones that I’d have a shot at are Alex Honnold, Tommy Caldwell and Andrew Skurka.

[-] zaph@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure the venn diagram of people who give unsolicited workout advice and people who don't pay attention to the by line is just a circle.

[-] kemsat@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

The expression should be “I had too much heart to tell him.” A person lacking heart would have told them, gleefully.

[-] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

No, "didn't have the heart" doesn't mean you don't have heart, just means you have a different kind of heart, so it works fine.

[-] Uli@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago

I had too many hearts to tell him. My blood pressure is through the roof.

[-] moosetwin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I didn't have any heart to tell him. I was dead.

[-] AliceTheMinotaur@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Or your a time lord

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[-] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

A person lacking heart would have told them, gleefully.

TIL I'm lacking heart.

[-] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

This happens a lot in the firearms community. I get told about x, y, z guns and how they function. But I have all those guns and have trained on the less accessible. I own full auto legally but every other day I'm told I can't own one. People be dumb.

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