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[-] iopq@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Nix: you package it yourself and do a pull request

Sadly, many flatpaks don't even work on NixOS properly because of assumptions about the file structure or similar

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[-] Wofls@feddit.org 5 points 8 months ago

I don't wanna be that guy, but someone has to say it: Nix Flakes

[-] renzev@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I have both nix and flatpak lol. Different usecases: flatpak for stuff that I would rather have sandboxed (browsers, games), nix for stuff that I would rather be integrated into the system (command line tools, etc). Tho I still have to learn about flakes, right now I'm just using nix-env for everything like a caveman lol

[-] Skyflare@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 8 months ago

Bottle's developers disagree with this meme

[-] tiziodcaio@feddit.it 4 points 8 months ago

I cannot use bottles since months due to their faltpak monogamy policy :/

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[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

You don't need the distro to package your sodtware through their package management systems though. Apt and dnf repositories are extensible, anyone can publish. If you go to copr or ppa you can have a little extra help too, without distro maintainers.

The headache comes up when multiple third party repositories start conflicting with each other when you add enough of them, despite they're best efforts. This scenario starts needing flatpack, which can, for example concurrently provide multiple distinct library versions installed that traditionally would conflict with each other. This doesn't mean application has to bundle the dependency, that dependency can still be external to the package and independently updated, it just means conflicts can be gracefully handled.

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[-] Liz@midwest.social 3 points 8 months ago

I know nothing about how flatpak works other than that it's containerized. But this meme tells me it's the OS's responsibility to create the flatpak, and not the developer's? Is that right?

[-] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago

No the most common way is for devs to package their own software as a flatpak since you can typically choose your preferred packaging tool to use inside of the flatpak.

Traditional package management typically is done by the distro maintainers.

[-] Liz@midwest.social 5 points 8 months ago

Oh I see, I've got it backwards.

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