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I've been working on converting my gaming PC to Linux for a few weeks, but everything is running, but it all is just a little jankier than I would like.

I have an 8th gen Intel i7 and an Rtx 2070, running Arch linux.

Sometimes I boot up and my mouse doesn't work and I have to restart. Sometimes I launch games and they just don't launch right.

It feels like I'm doing a lot of work for no benefit. In fact, Elden ring runs way worse on my Linux partition than my Windows partition.

I've tried GE proton, gamemode, steam compatibility, everything... I'm sorry but I'm going to have to stick with Windows for gaming.

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[-] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 146 points 5 months ago

somebody gave you bad advice if you chose arch for your first distro

[-] Jobe@feddit.org 64 points 5 months ago

I wonder if the Arch bros will ever realize they're doing more harm than good...

[-] TeddE@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago

Obviously NixOS is the way to go for a gaming OS, just use the right flake and you're all set!

/s

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

Nah, use Gentoo, you'll be hard-pressed to find something simpler.

[-] TeddE@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago
[-] Deway@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

I started using Linux when I was in high school. LFS has been my end goal, my Linux graal ever since. It's only been 23 years, I'll take care of it someday soon©.

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[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

Even simpler! Nothing to get between you and the kernel. :)

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[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago

Yeah, Arch is not a great choice.

I would suggest PopOS! or Nobara.

Or just good ole reliable Debian.

[-] visor841@lemmy.world 62 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Linux may very well not be for you, but using Arch first is like jumping into the deep end to learn how to swim. It's no surprise you're drowning. I'd recommend you try a gaming-focused distro like Nobara before you go back to Windows for good.

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[-] Voyajer@lemmy.world 54 points 5 months ago

Who the hell recommended Arch to you? Arch is for when you've been using Linux for a few years and have gotten bored waiting for the latest updates to hit your repos.

[-] Jambalaya@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 months ago

I use Linux at work, so I am a least familiar with how to tinker with it, but it just can't seem to find the right settings to get things running smoothly. I can't imagine a different distro would be any different.

[-] Voyajer@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago

The problem with Arch is that it's philosophy includes having to set up everything correctly yourself rather than each package you install already being set up and preconfigured the way you'd expect it to be in other distros. You shouldn't need to be fiddling with system stuff at all with something user focused like Pop!OS since I believe it even handles nvidia drivers for you. I wouldn't be using arch myself if I didn't have significant amounts of free time to invest into chasing down every little problem I encountered using it in college.

Linux is in a weird spot right now where the two ends of the user spectrum seem to be handled well while the middle still has issues since they're not already experts or just need an internet browser to be completely happy.

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

I can’t imagine a different distro would be any different.

BZZZZZZZZZZZT I'm sorry but that answer was not correct. Next player!

Seriously try some of the other distros and you'll have a much more pleasant experience. I already recommended Tumbleweed in another reply but man, anything but Arch is gonna be an improvement for somebody trying to make the switch from Windows gaming for the first time.

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[-] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Linux at work and Linux for gaming are two very different beasts. For example, you didn't mention which drivers and DE (or WM) you're using which are the most crucial part to how games run, and both of which need to be manually configured on Arch but come pre-configured or are a couple clicks away in other distros.

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[-] Potatofish@lemmy.world 49 points 5 months ago

Arch Linux is great for people that want to do nothing but Arch Linux.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago

True. It's also good for people who want to get stuff done. I used it for 5-ish years, and it was an incredibly productive, low-maintenance distro. I only switched because I wanted to run brtfs on root, so I figured I'd give openSUSE a shot since they do that by default.

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[-] sit_up_straight 48 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

with the issues you've had i think it's perfectly understandable, but I'll agree with other commenters that arch is not a good choice for a first distro. i recommend trying dual booting windows and a more "beginner " distro like Linux mint or pop_os

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

What the hell, he uses Arch as a first checkout linux gaming distro?

Bro, you missed one small but crucial information there just at the beginning of your journey...

[-] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 5 months ago

the reason why arch gets recommend a lot as a gaming distro is that it is bleeding edge. Their for has very up to date drivers and parches that can help gaming. But with the current state of gaming on Linux this is a bit less of a requirement. most distros are new enough for most games. Exception might be debian LTS or something.

So i totaly agree that choosing something other then arch for gaming is a good option if you are rather new to linux.

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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago

Arch Linux

Unless you're on a good downstream like SteamOS, I'd suggest switching to something stable cutting edge (Fedora or Nobara if you want to put in zero effort).

Arch by itself will give you way the hell too many possible problems. You could waste hours on DKMS alone.

Mint will also work, but it has the downside of having slower updates to software packages.

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[-] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago

First of all nothing to apologize, no one should be forcing anyone to use any OS.

Secondly, you shouldn't start with Arch, it's a very manual process that has several small things that can be done wrong. I recommend you try Mint, Pop or any other beginner friendly distro, you can still tinker and customize them as much as you want, but you will be starting from something that works instead of having to build a working system from the ground up without knowing what that looks like.

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[-] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 28 points 5 months ago

If you're not having a good time, stop. Life is too short.

If you're still interested in using linux, LinuxMint or PopOs! are what most people would recommend to a new user, not Arch.

Arch can be perfect for users with the time, knowledge, and effort to perfectly tailor things to suit their needs. They can make it perfectly efficient, without any excess.
I just want to use my computer whenever I want it to work. I am fine with it having a few extra packages/applications that I might never use. I've being using linux as main (or only) operating system on/off for about 20 years, and I currently use Mint.

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[-] Presi300@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

If you're a beginner... or hate jank, don't use Arch. And make sure you're using a desktop environment that supports Wayland (GNOME or KDE). Gaming on X11 can be buggy, janky and inconsistent

[-] Fuzzypyro@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

They are running Nvidia. Their only option for Wayland is kde.

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[-] Jambalaya@lemmy.zip 18 points 5 months ago

Thanks for the recommendations everyone! I plan on keeping Linux on my second drive to continue playing around with it, but my gaming will probably go back to Windows. Might give bazzite or popos a try next.

[-] exocortex@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 5 months ago

I recommend trying another linux distro for a while. Arch has a pretty steep learning curve. So big respect for getting it to work as a first distro, but there is a lot of stuff you have to setup manually that just works on other distros. If you got more stuff working and get a little more familiar you can always go back to arch.

I use arch nowadays, but the first time i tried to install it i basically gave up a few times. If you just want to try it out in order to learn then it's perfectly cool to take some time. But if your goal is to play games then arch is just a means to an end. Then it becomes really annoying, because you cannot reach your goal.

[-] dodos@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Just a heads up, but gaming on an external drive with bazzite is a nightmare (if you end up trying to go that route).

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[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Arch for a beginner can be a bit too much.

Try Bazzite.

[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I also heard good things about Nobara in terms of gaming. Haven't tried it myself though.

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[-] nublug 16 points 5 months ago

sounds like your problem is likely a combo of trying bare arch and also an nvidia card. i'd recommend Pop!OS as i hear it's the best out of the box experience for nvidia owners, and if you want to stay arch based i'd try EndeavourOS as it's arguably the most mature and stable arch based distro today, it's what i use but i also have amd not nvidia so i can't speak for the nvidia experience for endeavour. maybe you want to wait a while before you try again just so you're not burning out on the frustration, too. good luck!

[-] MrBungle@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago

Seconding pop os for a solid starter Linux distro.

Been daily driving it for about 3 years now i think.

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[-] MexicanJoker@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

I understand your struggle. As others said, Arch is not a beginner friendly distro.

I would suggest trying gaming tailored distros like Nobara, Chimera or Bazzite and see how you feel about them. Don't install your full steam library during these testing period, try games separately and prioritize the games you play the most.

Learning involves trial and error and the Linux ecosystem has a lot of that.

In the end it's ok if you say This is not for me right now

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[-] Fades@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Arch for gaming, what the hell

[-] ulkesh@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Works quite well for me. But I would agree it’s not the best to start with if having little desktop Linux experience.

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[-] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 months ago

Lol try Linux mint, it just works

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

I'm sorry but I'm going to have to stick with Windows for gaming.

That's ok, I forgive you.

Seriously, Windows works better for a lot of people, and that's fine. I went back to Windows several times before I made the switch permanently to Linux. You just gotta do what works for you.

If you decide to try Linux again, I would recommend a distro like chimera OS, nobara, or just vanilla fedora. I've personally had a lot of luck with those distros.

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[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

I switched my gaming PC to Linux a few months back. I distro hopped for a while due to various issues, and landed on openSUSE Tumbleweed. Everything just works (except for the occasional bug in the updates where I have to wait for the next snapshot for a fix, but that's NBD).

Caveat: I'm all AMD so no Nvidia stuff to worry about. YMMV.

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[-] sgibson5150@slrpnk.net 11 points 5 months ago

FWIW, I've got an i7-8700k with an RTX 3080. I initially had two major issues when I replaced Windows with Bazzite:

  1. Steam doesn't do great with libraries on NTFS partitions. Supposedly there are workarounds, but I couldn't get them to work for me. I had to reformat a couple drives as ext4 (and do a bunch of file management in the process) before things would play nice.

  2. I had my CPU overclocked to 4.8 GHz in Windows. BG3 kept crashing on me on Bazzite. Finally occurred to me to drop the overclock and I've played 40+ hours since, solid as a rock. Performance is comparable to Windows with OC. GPU temps are consistently better than Windows. Only thing I'm missing is HDR.

Bonus: GreenWithEnvy (for GPU fan curve) won't run in a Wayland session yet, apparently, so I've been running under X11 instead.

Hope this helps. YMMV. Happy gaming, whatever OS you use!

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[-] jemikwa 10 points 5 months ago

Nobara is a very good starting point for Linux. I personally know Linux stuff from an IT perspective, but personal use/driver troubleshooting is not something I care to fiddle with regularly. I started with Kubuntu since it's familiar, but eventually swapped to Nobara when I had some issues with the few games I play.
Nobara has been seamless and easy. Having all wine and proton dependencies preinstalled is much nicer and a lot of games Just Work ™️ out of the box.

[-] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago

Wrong distro. Start again.

Popos

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[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 8 points 5 months ago

Hi there, whoever suggested linux for your switch played a mean joke on you. Granted, arch works well if you know what you‘re doing, apparently. But no way it is a good starting distro.

I‘m not sure how eldenring works on linux but most games run without problems.

One little caveat is this: you need to understand that windows is a billion dollar product while linux is mostly community driven. It costs nothing, except many people donating their time. So I‘d suggest adopting a „its insane that hobbyists are able to build something like this“ view. Otherwise you‘ll get frustrated and will end up im privacy invasive windows territory again.

If you want a more gaming ready distro, try pop os or bazzite. Good luck

[-] BurnedOliveTree@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

No point in forcing it upon itself, you'll just hate it Just if you are to try again, remember you can always ask about recommendations, maybe there will be a setup for you which works smoothly and out of the box

[-] ulkesh@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Good luck! Linux is sadly not quite yet for everyone, but it’s so much further along than it was when I started in 1999.

I bounced between Linux and Windows for decades, but when the Recall debacle happened, it became clear that Microsoft have lost their collective minds. I wiped my system, put Garuda Linux on it, and everything works quite well for me with no tinkering except with user-level KDE settings. I also changed from an NVIDIA RTX 3070Ti to an AMD RX 7800XT just so everything related to graphics would just work and I didn’t have to wait and hope that explicit sync really does fix everything for NVIDIA on Wayland.

I also use proton-ge for everything (in Steam as well as in Lutris which uses umu-launcher) and every game I’ve attempted to run (thus far on the order of 35+ games), has run great, including Elden Ring. I’ve found in my 25 years experience, the trick with Linux is two-fold: researching hardware to guarantee full Linux support…and having patience. And I’ve fell victim to that last one dozens of times over the years which led me back to windows each time.

No more.

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[-] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Can't blame you. I put a Windows PC together again just so I could play Helldivers 2 a bit more consistently. There's nothing wrong with wanting to enjoy your leisure time.

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