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submitted 5 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

The prehistoric megalithic structure in England has been targeted by activists spraying orange powder paint, social media footage showed.

Environmental protesters sprayed paint on Stonehenge on Wednesday, with footage showing an orange powder covering some of the stones.

Two protesters dressed in white were seen running towards two of the megaliths, spraying paint, as another person attempted to stop them, in footage released by Just Stop Oil, an environmental activist group focused on the issue of human-caused climate change.

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[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 100 points 5 months ago

yknow what fuck it, i support this. i was a little on the reactionary side back when they were throwing soup,

but after seeing hundreds of comments saying “just do if you want something done” and then seeing those same people turn around and say “but safely blocking streets in protest is an affront to my rights, stop being annoying”

…i get it now. it’s cornstarch and will wash off. calling for “optics” is just concern trolling. people are hearing about it. that’s the point. fuck oil. keep up the messaging. people are going to starve and drown and bleed from war caused by climate change. we are gonna survive a few people yeeting nonpermanent shit at public art.

[-] Bertuccio@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Even if they did damage anything their message is that anyone getting mad about damaging works of art or heritage sites through direct action should be just as mad about people destroying the actual entire planet indirectly and calling for their immediate imprisonment too.

As annoying as I find them and as much as I want to preserve these things, they're exactly right that paintings and rocks mean fuckall if we ruin our only home.

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[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 89 points 5 months ago

Yeah those people who built that place definitely screwed up the environment. This will show them. Let's dig up their graves and piss on them to show the world we mean business.

Or maybe let's not screw up historical sites and go after big business and the ones actually destroying the environment.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago

I hate it too. But you're hearing about it and its here on Lemmy. So its working. Idk if bad rep is what they want. They should be trashing the industry buildings and business headquarters of the most polluting companies. They're getting arrested anyway and at least then they'd look like Captain Planet.

[-] Garbanzo@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago

Is it working though? Does discussion of what absolute dipshits they are further the cause? I bet I'd hear about it if they bombed a refinery, but that takes some pretty serious commitment.

[-] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago

"Man, these people are dipshits", "climate change is a problem though"

That's an overall positive discussion that wouldn't have happened otherwise.

So these people are sacrificing their image for discourse about climate change.

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[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 21 points 5 months ago

They have spray painted those HQs as well, the news just doesn't cover it much. So far the only way to raise awerness has been to do stuff like this. Also they intentionally haven't damaged anything historic so this works with no issue, they know what they are doing.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

It's like that internet law. The quickest way to the correct answer is to confidently assert an incorrect answer. Maybe the quickest way to getting noticed is whatever will entice the masses to "correct" your actions?

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[-] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

You should probably specify which Captain Planet.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

This is okay with me

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[-] Lyre@lemmy.ca 80 points 5 months ago

The amount of knee jerk rage I've seen over paint whenever one of these incidents happens. Its paint. It comes off. Its an extremely effective strategy to get attention while causing little to no damage.

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 87 points 5 months ago

In this case it's actually dyed corn starch so this would literally wash off from the first rain. And yea, this actually gets attention, when they spray painted car dealerships of some of the heaviest polluters, protested oil companies and when a guy set himself on fire to protest climate change it gets almost no coverage.

[-] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 75 points 5 months ago

Ffs just blow up a pipeline or sabotage parts of their infrastructure or follow the higher ups home and deface their homes.

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 42 points 5 months ago

,they said, sitting at home, doing nothing.

[-] Zess@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

So they did just as much as the protesters in this case.

[-] nialv7@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago

And they did, literally destroyed a couple fuel pumps at two gas stations: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/apr/28/just-stop-oil-protesters-sabotage-petrol-pumps-on-m25-motorway

Did you hear about that on the news? Did you see this being posted on Lemmy?

Now you know why they have to do what they do.

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[-] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 15 points 5 months ago
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[-] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 5 months ago

... God damn it, people. This accomplishes nothing and just makes people angry at you, dipshits.

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 33 points 5 months ago

This has been the most effective form of climate protest by far. When they block oil terminals or spray paint car dealerships no one will cover it making the protest pretty much useless, like a guy set himself on fire to protest climate change and that was barely covered. The stuff they do doesn't actually cause any damage but the media actually covers it because they can spin it as rage bait against the protestors but at least it gets coverage.

[-] Plopp@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago

Coverage, yes. But the result of that coverage? Making people not want to support climate activism, and maybe even have a negative reaction to anything climate positive. And how effective is that coverage in helping the climate? What changes in climate related policy can be traced back to any of these actions?

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 23 points 5 months ago

Yeah this is totally selfish and just brings attention to them while harming their supposed cause.

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago

It spreads awerness, no other climate protest has even managed that. Some people obviously fall for the news rage bait but if even 1% of people gain any awerness of climate change it will have been the most effective form of climate protests by far purely on what reach it has had.

[-] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I would disagree. Like Greta Thunberg , did it right. peaceful protest and didn't vandalize.

She spoke in front the of UN. These guys are doing it wrong.

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[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 20 points 5 months ago

Much like my witnessing PETA protestors screaming in the face of little children with a bullhorn because they happened to be waiting in line for the circus. I can support removing elephants from a life of circus performing, but I absolutely cannot stand PETA (for this and other reasons like euthanizing people's pets).

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 12 points 5 months ago

Your PETA horror story didn't happen lmao

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[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 11 points 5 months ago

Nah I'm into it

[-] nialv7@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Speak for yourself. This made me support them.

[-] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 35 points 5 months ago

I still subscribe to the theory that these people are hired actors from Big Oil. They are experts at being unlikable and naturally pushes me towards the opposing side. It sucks.

[-] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 44 points 5 months ago

If a small group annoying you pushes you towards not caring about the climate, you never cared about the climate.

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[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 9 points 5 months ago

genuinely i used to subscribe to the same theory

and then it switched. i think they’re here genuinely. not even sure what happened to change my mind. your mileage may vary? but i get where you are coming from.

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[-] cupcakezealot 34 points 5 months ago

a reminder that the people complaining about how awful it is to desecrate stonehenge also want to build a motorway right through it

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[-] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago
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[-] Swarfega@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago

I'm all for their cause but they've been going about it the wrong way every single time. They do nothing but piss the general public off. The very people you actually need to get on your side.

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 19 points 5 months ago

When they block oil terminals, spray paint car dealerships of the heaviest polluters or set themselves on fire the news doesnt cover it so no one will even know, while this actually works.

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[-] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

I can't simple not see any logic reason in what they are doing...

Might as well paint a toilet orange at the local library and say it's for the environment.

Probably requires harsh cleaning and that goes into the ground..

[-] missphant 19 points 5 months ago

Probably requires harsh cleaning and that goes into the ground..

It's cornstarch, it requires water (rain).

[-] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

My cornstarch isn't orange by default...

[-] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

The difficulty of adding orange food coloring to cornstarch is an insurmountable chemical process.

[-] heatofignition@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

The point is to get us talking about it. I'd say they succeeded.

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[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago

Good. They should block the roads too.

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