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Q. Is this really as harmful as you think?

A. Go to your parents house, your grandparents house etc and look at their Windows PC, look at the installed software in the past year, and try to use the device. Run some antivirus scans. There’s no way this implementation doesn’t end in tears — there’s a reason there’s a trillion dollar security industry, and that most problems revolve around malware and endpoints.

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[-] retrospectology@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Does anyone yet know how to break stuff like Copilot?

I don't have Win11, but I also never really trust that MS won't surreptiously push this kind of thing in the background to legacy systems, and I don't trust UI toggles within Windows to actually do anything.

Do we know if there are services or files that Co-pilot needs to function?

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Do we know if there are services or files that Co-pilot needs to function?

Co-pilot requires windows. I'm going to try Linux Mint and see how that goes.

[-] RoyalEngineering@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I keep hearing all the rabble rousing about this from a security perspective, but is there not an incognito mode to the Recall capability?

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

There cant be.

It literally screenshots what you're doing every few seconds, and builds a plain text database of any and all text it captures.

Incognito mode is not having it installed.

[-] RoyalEngineering@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Hmm that didn’t sound right so I had to look it up. Microsoft says there’s a way to pause the recall snapshot functionality for a set amount of time, like an incognito mode:

Pause or resume snapshots To pause recall, select the Recall icon in the system tray then Pause until tomorrow.  Snapshots will be paused until they automatically resume at 12:00 AM. When snapshots are paused, the Recall system tray icon has a slash through it so you can easily tell if snapshots are enabled. To manually resume snapshots, select the Recall icon in the system tray and then select Resume snapshots.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/retrace-your-steps-with-recall-aa03f8a0-a78b-4b3e-b0a1-2eb8ac48701c

I don’t understand why there’s so much FUD around this product…

[-] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

You don't understand why there's so much fear, uncertainty, and doubt about an on-by-default program that records everything you do? Are you being serious right now?

[-] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I find it hard to take seriously anyone who throws the term FUD around with no sense of irony.

[-] RoyalEngineering@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah not to be obtuse here, but I think the fear is over sensationalized. I haven’t seen it in person, but it seems like this is a totally new product that is similar to idea of browser history, but adds in some modern features. I would like to check it out.

on-by-default

That’s not correct. Based on the documentation, Windows Setup has an option to enable/disable the feature on first boot.

The documentation also says it doesn’t capture incognito windows and I mentioned in my other comment that you can turn it off temporarily and permanently. It doesn’t run all the time no matter what, like some of the comments have suggested.

Here’s a screenshot of the config page with a simple toggle to turn off:

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