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What's Russia gonna do? Lose on two fronts instead of just the one?
There's nothing the UK likes more than messing with Russia... at least it will distract us from Brexit-style self-owns in the near future.
This comment is perfect, thank you for making my day.
Russia has lost half a dozen ships to a nation with no navy. And they want to throw down with one as experienced as the UK? "Attacking the home of Storm Shadow missiles is a good thing" is the thought of an idiot.
The Russian navy does not seem to have a defense against explody things in the water. It seems like an oversight, but I'm not a military strategist.
They’re still following their WWII and czarist military doctrine of “we have more people and resources than you”. It’s a shame that Russian military leadership will forever be associated with this instead of having a second chance to demonstrate the actual might and strategy of Trotsky’s red army.
It sometimes seems like being in power in Russia destroys your ability to have sensible military strategy
You don't rise in the ranks of the Russian military by being competent, you rise by kissing enough asses and having the right connections.
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They could deploy their only aircraft carrier, that’ll show ‘em.
Oh, wait, never mind.
“The ship has been out of service and in repairs since 2018. The repair process has been hampered by accidents, embezzlement of funds, and other setbacks. After the floating drydock PD-50 sank in Kola Bay (Murmansk) in an accident that killed one worker in October 2018, the ship was towed to Sevmorput Yard No 35. In another mishap in December 2019, a major fire killed at least one worker and injured ten others. In June 2022, the ship was transferred to a drydock at the 35th Ship Repair Plant in Murmansk, where it remained until February 2023. The current projection is that repairs will be completed and the ship will be transferred back to the Russian Navy sometime in 2024, however this may be pushed back to 2025 if issues arise during overhaul and testing”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_aircraft_carrier_Admiral_Kuznetsov
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We’re gonna need a community called “RussiaThreatens” like “ChinaWarns” where it just collects these stories. Yeah, we know.
Authoritarian Copium
To add some icing, the phrase was originally Russian and was a household joke in Russia for decades. Russians (and Vlad Puta) know very well how unserious and comical numerous "final warnings" are.
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You're already getting your ass kicked by Ukraine, you're not scaring anyone with threats anymore.
Ukraine is faring fat better than one would have expected, but they're not getting their asses kicked. The tide of the battle seems to be shifting in Russia's favor due to Ukraine being depleted of troops.
Russia on Monday threatened to strike British military facilities
This is equivalent to USA threatening to strike North Korean, Iranian or Chinese facilities (all of whom have been arming Russia). No such threats have been made.
Just so we're clear who's escalating things.
It's just a media game
Every time Russia says "there will be consequences" they're just throwing threats around like a dog barking from the other side of a fence
All their cards are on the table. The only things they could pull off are drafting more people or going nuclear
They're now scrambling to find soldiers from other nations because announcing another draft would obviously shake Putin's control over Russia
I just wish Europe would stop playing this war like a political game. SEIZE RUSSIAN MONEY! What are you afraid of? Ruining relations with Russia? Fuck off! Ukraine won't have people to fight forever
So true. By this point, Russia is already using everything it can, short of an actual, hot war with the west. And their military is stretched to the limit already without that.
I think this sabre rattling is still useful to them as a one-two-tactic:
- Public threat from Russia, mentioning but not directly threatening nukes (the "push" side)
- Russia-aligned media in the west publish articles saying "Putin's threat should be taken seriously," Russia-aligned western politicians smearing their opponents as "irresponsible war mongers", followed by pushing for existing sanctions to be lifted, etc. (the "pull" side via stooges/crooked politicians)
SIEZE RUSSIAN MONEY!
This is exactly what they should do. But they won't, because most of it is held in the City of London's offshore boltholes. Seizing anything from them would scare the shit out of every big-time capitalist and corrupt politician on the planet. Would be good for us though.
It’s not equivalent. Russia is at war with Ukraine. The USA and the UK are, in theory, not a part of this war - at least not directly.
It’s the equivalent of Ukraine threatening the countries arming Russia, if those countries decided to get more directly involved in the war.
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Why do the biggest assholes always have to rattle their sabers the most? Are they compensating for something?
Because it worked to get them where they are... So they keep doing it. Ostensibly Germany's not sending Taurus precisely because of this.
I have complained to the chancellor about that and will continue to do so. But they do provide Taurus to allies who in turn send their stock of older but similarly capable systems to Ukraine such as storm shadow.
Still, it's silly and our weapons are only for defense against Russia anyway. We will only need Taurus ourselves if Ukraine loses. Might as well put them to use.
They hope to scare enough people to get a change. don't let it work.
There's something weird in Putin's hand... it's super blurry... I think he's shaking it really, really fast... hang on, I have a high-speed camera. Let's see what it is.
Oh, well that makes sense. Pray, continue.
If Russia attacks the UK can Ukraine attack China and Iran?
Probably a bad idea but that's what they're saying isn't it?
Edit: and given russias use of China and Iran weaponry, if it happens to be from them, the UK can attack them too now!
If Russia attacks the UK they've attacked NATO and all bets are off...
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It seems the Brits are doing something right, keep it going. Would love to see our chancellor doing the same instead of repeating the russian propaganda...
the Brits are doing something right
bout fuckin time
I’d say that we’re frequently doing something right. Unfortunately, we’re also frequently doing other things wrong.
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Probably just rishi trying to secure some right wing votes for the election later in the year.
It genuinely baffles me how the conservative parties of more than a few western countries went from the hawkish party during the Cold War to Russian apologists today. The mental gymnastics are truly astounding.
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Like they've been threatening for the last two years? They're out of escalation options that are useful for them.
No no no!
. * holding back tears *
This time we will launch a nuke for real!
"China's final warning"
I'd take it more seriously if the West actually became involved, but regardless of Frenchmen "shooting their mouth off" nobody's sending troops to fight a nuclear power.
Maybe double check to see if they actually still are one. All these decades of sabre rattling and corruption in the defense industry, wouldn't it just take the cake if hardly any of their nuclear capabilities still worked?
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I would say no-one is sending troops yet. I really dislike any country ruling it out entirely, better to just say nothing. If the conditions change, we (NATO/Europe) will need to act. Otherwise, our leaders may well be judged by the same yardstick as the leaders keen to appease a certain country in the late 30s.
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it would hold drills simulating the use of battlefield nuclear weapons
Oh no, not drills. If we're not careful they're going to pretend to use nukes, that's very scary.
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are you winning vlad? are you?
coz doesnt look like that if you need to threat the world with nuclear weapons.
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Is this a rerun? Sounds really familiar
Lmao fucking try it, Putin. Make our day.
Holy shit what the fuck is wrong with you basically begging for a war between two major powers? We all hate Putin, but fuck that would not be good for anyone.
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Russia stop! Poland can only get so erect!
Send more Stormshadows!
For real though, attack the UK and you're gonna have the USAF and RAF flying sorties over Moscow within a week
We call this behavior "Säbelrasseln" in german.
The term exists in English, too, with the exact same meaning - "saber rattling".
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