Lmao you sweet summer child. You think firing him will do shit? The company has cancer. They are trying to go public. Nothing is going to fix whats wrong with the company now. It's terminal.
This is how it goes.
Company makes good product.
Company goes public.
Company becomes shit.
Company dies.
Rinse and repeat.
Also, firing spez does nothing because this wasn’t spez’s decision.
If you look at the history of Reddit’s API, it had a fee until spez became CEO again and made it free. This was when the 3PA took off.
Being the CEO does not mean that you get to actually make major decisions for the company. Think of the CEO as the face of the board of directors. They are the ones that approve/deny major changes.
You want the board changed, not spez.
Why do we want anything to change?
Why are we still sitting on this new platform talking about ways reddit can be saved?
What's happening to reddit is the end result of the sort of platform it is and the current state of the tech industry. With or without spez, its course is set, nothing we do will slow or reverse it.
Feels like maybe there's some younger people here that haven't gone through the death of a platform/site before. Us older social media folks have seen this time and time again, have had to migrate from self-destructing platform to self-destructing platform many times.
So take it from me: reddit is done. No matter what happens next, it is never recovering. There will be no reset button or rolling back anything. The damage is permanent, and the profit incentives run too deep.
Let it go.
The cold never bothered me anyway.
I am so tired of this sentiment. You're not wrong about the corporate stuff, but blaming people for wanting it to get better serves no purpose. For all its flaws, Reddit had something that no other site, not even this one, has been able to remotely replicate. I didn't use the site for news, politics, memes, or mindless scrolling. I used it because it was literally the only place to discuss niche topics and interests.
Whether we like it or not, it's the only place where a lot of these niche communities exist. Users that were here since Digg will find a new home, but the one who can barely use a Macbook may not. And I'm all for helping as many of those communities migrate, but the truth is that for many communities, especially the ones less technically inclined, the death of Reddit means the death of that community, and that's really fucking sad.
Niche community boards existed before Reddit, they will exist after Reddit.
Not in a way that's accessible to casual audiences. You can watch literally any show, and chances are there's a sub where you can go talk about it. That was not the case 10 years ago. Unless your show had a cult following, the only people to talk about it with were people you knew. I hope that someday we can turn this site into the same kind of thing, but we aint there yet.
blaming people for wanting it to get better serves no purpose
Yeah. No one is doing that. We're blaming them for tolerating bullshit.
The users played every card they had and Reddit didn't move a fucking millimeter. If they had come up with absolutely any sort of compromise, you could have a decent argument. But Reddit has made it very clear that the only changes that are coming are the continued enshittification.
If users actually stopped contributing to the site, they would have no choice but to roll back the changes and come up with another solution. But not even a small fraction of the site's users slowed down for more than a couple of days.
We need to just let reddit die as a sign to all other executives that their customers are the ones who hold the cards.
We weren't the customers. We were the content creators. We gave the site value that was then sold to advertisers, as the cost of keeping the platform running.
Thinking of platforms like reddit as businesses is the inherent problem in the first place. Running ads or having some premium features should only be for the purposes of maintaining the site. The second the people running it decide that it's time to start making profit for themselves is the moment it dies.
You want the board changed, not spez.
Katelin Holloway - Former exec of vc capital firm Initialized.
Michael Seibel - Y Combinator partner
Patricia Fili-Krushel - previously the President of ABC TV Network, and an EVP at both NBCUniversal and Time Warner Inc.
Paula Price - Former board member of JP Morgan Chase bank
Porter Gale - CMO at Personal Capital
Robert A. Sauerberg Jr. - President and CEO at Conde Nast
Samuel Altman - president of Y Combinator and now the CEO of OpenAI.
Zubair Jandali - global head of App Developer Ad Sales (owned by google). Ddirector of US performance sales at AdMob.
2 techbro ghouls
4 financial elite bougie pricks
1 TV elite bougie prick
1 advertisement industry ghoul and all round bougie prick
For me, it would more be about spez getting fucked and not being able to profit from the IPO. Couldn't really care less what happens to reddit at this point, but it would be nice if Steve Huffman got shafted as consequence for his greedy behavior.
Yeah, it doesn't matter if they hire another CEO or put another board in charge. The outcome will remain the same. They're trying to IPO, get their cash, and then from then on, they'll be bending over for investors.
Reddit as we knew it is long gone. Its time to move on.
I prefer Join Lemmy.
It's the only thing that will actually make a difference.
I don't care if spez is fired or not. It doesn't matter. He's incompetent, but he's just carrying out the wishes of the investors.
It doesn't really matter who corporate shill runs reddit, reddit is already over the edge that they only care about what is under the line. Fediverse is the future!
how about we stop talking about reddit and enjoy lemmy instead?
I agree, but, you know... This community is called "Reddit".
Yeah i was going to comment something about stop giving reddit clicks but then i saw the community
You want reddit to get better
I want reddit to fucking die
We are not the same
“fuck u/spez” means absolutely nothing to anyone who isn’t familiar with Reddit, it’s just noise.
And "Fire Steve Huffman means absolutely nothing to anyone who doesn't know reddit CEO's name.
I'll go for an easier one: Fuck reddit, join lemmy. Easy and clear, and I'm not sure reddit would get any better with its CEO fired, they'll likely find someone similar.
I swear some Lemmy users are worse than that overly attached gf meme.
Get off Reddit and stop talking about reddit.
Uhm, you see in what community you posted this ?
If you look into the history of "fuck /u/Spez" this is the comment(s) that he edited way back when. It's an eternal reminder of the bullshit that he's pulled in the past. The Streisand Effect in all its glory.
If you're going to say anything, help guide folks out of the dumpster fire. Direct some more content this way.
Who gives a fuck what happens to / what people think of Reddit's CEO.
Reddit should die. And people should come here. I want more instances and communities developing here. Right now I have to hope between reddit and here for some communities. Steve Huffman can go and suck dick.
I'd rather just say to migrate to Lemmy, there's always going to be a Steve Huffman, but with Lemmy it's either impossible or incredibly difficult.
The best thing to do, is ignoring r/place. If we give reddit our attention they can continue, if not they're nothing.
yeah. totally gonna fix reddit but posting shit on it.
Even firing him he would receive Ellen Pao treatment and put another puppet.
Instead of "fuck u/spez" use "reddit is dead" or "join Lemmy".
The one thing Musk and Spez have successfully done is make themselves scapegoats that leave people believing that everything will be resolved once they leave, so people have hope since there's a "clear solution."
These issues run much deeper than the individual owners and CEOs though, it's the rot of the companies and platforms themselves, and getting rid of those people will solve absolutely nothing.
What needs to happen is for people to just switch off and help grow alternative platforms away from corporate meddling. Will it ever become mainstream? Maybe not, but it will never happen if people never try and just give up.
Wait, they banned r/savethirdpartyapps? I guess they really don't give a shit about anything other than making money.
r/savethirdpartyapps is banned. r/save3rdparty apps is not.
source: just checked it myself
Yeah but you're still interacting with the site, getting ad eyeballs and adding to the user engagement stats.
If you really want to fuck spez, get off Reddit! Lemmy's already way better.
It doesn't matter who the CEO is. They want to make bank and it fundamentally doesn't work with volunteer mods.
Why would I want Spez fired when he's been so helpful in spreading awareness and encouraging adoption of the fediverse?
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