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[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 76 points 6 months ago

Next up: How combining shrinkflation with inflation empowers customers.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 42 points 6 months ago

Shorter life expectancies: good for the environment!

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 34 points 6 months ago

Did you mean "Shorter life expectancies: good for the economy!" ?

[-] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

I just lost another part of my soul. Goddamn.

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 months ago

Yay capitalism, right?

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

unemployment: good for the economy!

corpo media said that recently over here.

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Ugh. They really do all need to be killed.

EA did that on Reddit with loot boxes. It didn't go too well.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 59 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Pay increases for CEOs and shareholders should stop entirely until inflation is at the very least under control. As if the 1% getting less of a cut is going to affect inflation as much as the 99% of profits does.

Or whatever the actual percentages are. Don’t come at me with “uh it’s actually 23% vs 77%” bullshit because the point still stands.

[-] MyOneEyedWilly@real.lemmy.fan 53 points 6 months ago

If the French Revolution taught us anything, nothing changes until heads roll. And even then it’s inevitable it will happen again, and again.

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Disagree with the last part. We just lost that one.

[-] jahashar@sopuli.xyz 37 points 6 months ago

This far the inflation has been driven by rising corporate profits and energy costs. Now that the stagnant wages start to react, it's time to...

https://www.imf.org/en/Blogs/Articles/2023/06/26/europes-inflation-outlook-depends-on-how-corporate-profits-absorb-wage-gains

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 32 points 6 months ago

Capitalism has run its course

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 months ago

the means of production aint gonna seize themselves

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Also the children of the wealthy, to be passed to every religious functionary we can find.

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Hold up buddy. Those rich folks just want, "a little more", and there's still lots of willing turnips to squeezed.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago
[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Look, a lot of things just weren't gonna improve til the revolution.

We can pretend and prevaricate, but you can't negotiate with monsters who don't think youre human and let people die in the street for profit. Really the IMF are just being left acceleration lists here.

What I'm reading from this headline is that any fresh glorious red terror will have UN approval and IMF support, so the libs should get on board or they're bad liberals.

[-] Ifera@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

If the current situation was not due to the rich hoarding resources but localized within a country that is mostly self sufficient, and the government was working towards redistribution of wealth, it could, assuming a benevolent government and empathy. Those steps could help prevent something like the Argentinian situation a couple of decades ago, where people would joke that they had to pick their salary with a wheelbarrow, due to the inflation being so high, they were paid millions, but those millions would not be enough to buy the bare necessities.

This is not the case globally, for the record.

[-] pleb_maximus@feddit.de 19 points 6 months ago
[-] menemen@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Oh, Politico is Axel Springer. Everyone should stay aways from it then. Axel Springer is probably the worst media company in Europe.

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Why are they the worst? I know absolutely nothing about them

Edit: oh, the wiki told me they're the ones who own eg. Bild and Die Welt. Especially Bild is a steaming pile of shit, so I'm not surprised at all at someone calling them the worst

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 16 points 6 months ago

I guess it's all about that ratio of cost of living vs wage. Whether you get a wage increase to have more money for the same stuff or wage stays the same but cost of living goes down, I guess if everything else stayed the same it wouldn't matter which one happened. But of course it's not that simple.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago

Fuck Spacer’s Choice.

[-] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Well, the observation that prices will go up when salaries go up is not wrong; that that’s a problem is also not wrong. But this? Ugh.

Edit: dear downvoters: the “ugh” is about the article, I don’t think the gist of it is “good”.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago

prices will go up when salaries go up

Not necessarily, though. Sometimes salaries go up and prices go up. Sometimes salaries are stagnant and prices go up. Sometimes salaries go down and prices go up.

Prices go up no matter what because corporations are never satisfied with obscene profits. Their shareholders demand MORE obscene profits every quarter, everything else be damned.

[-] Anekdoteles@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

Prices go up no matter what because corporations are never satisfied with obscene profits. Their shareholders demand MORE obscene profits every quarter, everything else be damned.

It's not about making profits. It's about growing profits.

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 months ago

That's what the person you're respnding to said though?

shareholders demand MORE obscene profits every quarter

[-] menemen@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Also, prices have to go up as long as interest rates are not declared illegal.

Personally I am very much in favour of declaring interests illegal.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Is there a situation where salaries go up but prices don't?

[-] bort@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 months ago

when efficiency/productivity increases

[-] lightrush@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

Over the last 40 years in the US productivity has increased steadily and so have prices. Real wages have stayed flat.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

So with increased efficiency/productivity you might get a situation where worker salaries get higher but since products are made cheaper they might not raise prices on them? Makes sense. I wonder if in such situations either the resulting inflation or just greed ends up pushing the prices up anyway in real world scenarios.

[-] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 1 points 6 months ago

Of course, you’re right. I guess what I’m trying to say is that if there is going to be a predictable rise in people’s money, prices will increase extra. If no other measures are taken, people will have no change in how much they can buy, and prices will probably go up months earlier than incomes too.

[-] then_three_more@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Problem is the cost of housing seems completely disconnected to wage rises.

UK average wage growth since 2000

UK average house price growth since 2000

[-] Beryl@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago

An even bigger problem is that wages have become disconnected from productivity. 1000015612

[-] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 3 points 6 months ago
[-] geissi@feddit.de 8 points 6 months ago

that prices will go up when salaries go up is not wrong

Rising wages can increase prices, but don't necessarily have to.
Also other factors can increase prices while wages stagnate.
Recent price increases e.g. have mostly been driven by supply and logistics issues, mostly for food and energy.

that that’s a problem is also not wrong

That is not entirely correct either.
If wages rise through the board, then rising prices are not a big issue.
On the contrary, wage driven inflation might even re-balance income distribution to the benefit of workers.

[-] PyroNeurosis 2 points 6 months ago

Surely they mean pay raises for C-suite, right? R-right?

[-] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

What the fuck Politico.

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