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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/div0@lemmy.dbzer0.com

I asked and enough of you answered that allowing to federate with threads.net even for the lolz would be considered too risky for y'all.

So I've gone ahead and added threads.net to our blocklist.

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[-] UserDoesNotExist@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago

Man. As if Threads would even care. Due to their connection with instagram, they will automatically become the bigger content aggregator anyway. Why would threads even risk federation with platforms they do not control - and then they get sued if some moron on some instance posts questionable shit and some snowflake user on threads sees it. I’d bet Threads was never supposed to be federated. They just made use of a pre-existing software, just as truth social did. Why work hard, if the software is already there?

Furthermore threads is not even competing with Lemmy and Reddit like alternatives. I do t get all this fuss about threads. Everyone is suddenly so anti corporate, even though big corporations had a big part in what the internet is today.

In the future Defederation will just strengthen the position of bigger platforms. People will sooner or later be unhappy with the rather low amount of content and move to bigger platforms (that will eventually by controlled by corporations)

Staying federated is the smarter decision, as users will stay on smaller instances, since they have a big pool of content from other instances, including corporate instances like threads or similar.

[-] delirium@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

have you watched how embrace extend exterminate works?

[-] sacredbirdman@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I still remember early days of building something for the internet and you know what held back development easily by years: Internet Explorer. Big corporations even back then were playing that same shitty game of EEE, trying to lock people down and not caring at all about standards. Standards are why we have an internet at all.

[-] nekat_emanresu@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah, all the EEE talk made me reminisce a day or so ago about how IE was intentionally breaking standards and how dumber IT types fell for it and used it because "It's more compatible!".

[-] Norgur@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

and then they had their software and some others spit out .htm files instead of .html files because it would cause just enough issues to let them still claim they were in support with the standard yet somehow weren't....

[-] UserDoesNotExist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

And defederating threads would not be considered „locking down“?

[-] sacredbirdman@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

It's not. It's a choice that instances make, not a change to the protocol. You can always change your instance or host your own and as long as Threads conforms to the activitypub protocol you can interact with it. Locking down cannot happen as long as majority of participants adhere to an open protocol. It is what happens when a major player makes proprietary changes to how interaction works. Please study how EEE works, there are numerous examples in the past. Defederation is not that.

[-] UserDoesNotExist@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Well I believe we will come to no agreement then. To my understanding, locking down is both, proprietary software and the decision to defederate. Because both have the same result.

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