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The Israeli army fired artillery shells containing white phosphorus, an incendiary weapon, in military operations along Lebanon’s southern border between 10 and 16 October 2023.

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[-] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

so you've been ashamed for all of 24 days?

[-] Stanard@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Idk about OP but I've been ashamed of my country since at least ~~2016~~ ~~2001~~ ~~1990~~ ~~August 6, 1945~~ the 17th century when "we" decided that land settled by Native Americans somehow belonged to us. I wasn't alive for most of that time but I guarantee my country has done shameful things for muuuch longer than 24 days.

[-] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

little clarification here - humanity isnt native to anywhere other than Africa. the people that were in the American continents prior to the arrival of Europeans might not have taken boats to get there - though some clearly did as there were multiple waves of settlement over a few thousand years.

if their ancestors walked over the land bridge during the ice age and that somehow qualifies them as natives, then what about the ones whose ancestors took a boat across where the land bridge used to be and sailed down the coast? if they qualify, then why dont the people whose European ancestors took boats qualify as native? is it because the last round of people had vastly superior technology? because we speak the same languages they did? because we're the same ethnicity they were? is this a racism argument? I didnt get that memo.

is this a branch of the "noble savage" theory? there was a lot of war between various tribes in North America - generational warfare usually, where one tribe would traditionally raid another for resources or for women. this is well documented and had been occurring for as long as anyone could remember - long, long before the reintroduction of the horse into North America.

[-] steven@infosec.pub 6 points 2 years ago

I think it's mostly the uther lack of consideration for the locals at the time. Europeans went there with the explicit aim to "conquer" and loot a continent that was inhabited by dozens if not hundreds of societies. They went there, killed, raped and enslaved hundreds of thousands of people. Can't imagine to hear anyone defend that kind of behavior.

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