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[-] Totendax@feddit.de 38 points 2 years ago

Are American schools really that horrible?

[-] xxxSexMan69xxx 24 points 2 years ago
[-] FMT99@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

My kids seem to be doing ok. I mean they're not crazy about studying and homework and they have the odd complaint about a teacher, but they made great friends, they have pretty good teachers overall. It's probably not the same everywhere or for everyone but I don't think they'd be happy stuck in the house with me every day.

[-] xxxSexMan69xxx 2 points 2 years ago

They'd probably prefer spending time with a parent who loves them over having to listen to an unmotivated teacher who should've retired 20 years ago drone at them.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 years ago

They'd probably prefer spending time with kids their own age with similar interests, bonding over dissatisfaction with the unmotivated teachers. I had an awkward and unpopular adolescence, and even then I enjoyed the socialization I did get in public school much more than my brief stint with homeschooling.

[-] xxxSexMan69xxx 3 points 2 years ago

Is school the only place where they can bond with other children?

[-] fkn@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

School must have been awful for you, but it isn't this way for many... And I would guess that many is actually an overwhelming most but I don't have any stats to back that up.

[-] xxxSexMan69xxx 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, school can be alright as long as long as:

  • you aren't neurodivergent
  • you aren't gay
  • you aren't too ugly
  • you aren't too good-looking
  • you aren't too poor
  • you aren't too rich
  • you aren't unathletic

I could probably think of more things but you get the gist of it

[-] fkn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

This is only true for some places. You obviously have an axe to grind. I'm sorry you had such a terrible experience.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Of course not, but is there another option with similar regularity and exposure to such a wide variety of people? It's a societal microcosm.

[-] FMT99@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

I'm sorry, sounds like you had some bad experiences at school. I won't say there are no teachers like that but by and large my kids' teachers are pretty decent. During parent-teacher meetings they mostly seem to be pretty aware of who's who and what's going on in class.

I'm sure there are places where it's much worse though. It can be tough for kids.

[-] tillary@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

My "friends" used to frame me and get me into trouble with teachers. And I wouldn't rat on them because they were my "friends". Not saying the teachers should have realized this, but there's a lot going on that they don't know about.

[-] fkn@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Some teachers probably didn't know. Some probably did. Kids are terrible at most things, including freaking their friends.

[-] ShaggyDemiurge 26 points 2 years ago

parent who loves them

As a queer person, haha, you're funny

[-] xxxSexMan69xxx 2 points 2 years ago

Tolerant parents exist. In a public school, you are all but guaranteed to deal with bigots.

[-] ShaggyDemiurge 2 points 2 years ago

I'd rather not give more power to intolerant ones. The more I talk to other queer people and their relationships with parents, the more I become an unironical family abolitionist

[-] violetraven 1 points 2 years ago

Trans mom here. We do exist and can break the cycle.
We homeschooled and some of the first GNC examples I saw were teens and adult kids of other homeschooling parents.

[-] Cornpop@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

I had a blast in public school. Great friends great teachers, sure a few sucked but that's life. Every homeschool kid I know that wound up in public school eventually was weird af at first, but usually came around after a while. Being locked up with only your parents usually with them feeding you extreme religious BS is horrible for a child. Homeschool should be illegal, most parents are too dumb to be teachers.

[-] xxxSexMan69xxx 3 points 2 years ago

Extreme religious bullshit? Dude, not all of us are American evangelicals.

[-] fkn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

That vast vast vast majority of homeschool in the US is religious nutjobs. If you aren't American, then maybe it's different where you live... But to think homeschooling is anything but religious nutters in the US is crazy.

[-] weedazz@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

They probably would, but that wouldn't prepare them for a life of listening to college lectures, corporate meetings, boring social events, etc that "drone at them." Giving a kid an unrealistic view of what adult life is and encouraging dependent personality disorder doesn't sound that healthy to me. For me, school absolutely made me do stuff I didn't want to do, and now in my 30s I see that's pretty much the definition of being an "adult"

[-] xxxSexMan69xxx 3 points 2 years ago

They can attend lectures outside of school. Homeschool doesn't mean locking them in a room.

[-] Shalakushka@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Even if they'd rather hear an unqualified religious crazy teach them (they don't), that doesn't make it a good idea. Children would prefer to spend all day playing video games, so I don't know if preference is the measure to use here.

[-] xxxSexMan69xxx 2 points 2 years ago

Who said anything about religion?

[-] Shalakushka@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

A good 80% of home schooling is done so religious crazies can shelter their children from anything that disagrees with their holy book.

[-] ebc@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Maybe in your neck of the woods, but around here, it's a minority. I'd say about 40% homeschool because institutional school doesn't have enough services for their special-needs kids (ADHD, hyperactivity, giftedness, dyslexia, etc.), about another 30% do it just out of conviction that there's another way that kids can learn (especially the whole unschooling movement, but there's also Montessori, project-based learning, etc.) and there's no alternative school around, the other ~30% is a mix of family circumstances, bad experiences with schools (bullying especially) and yes, religious zealots. The law was drastically tightened a few years ago, mostly because of these religious zealots, so they aren't very popular here.

COVID also changed that landscape a lot; a lot of anti-vax and anti-maskers started homeschooling when institutional schools started mandating these things, but most of these parents soon realized it was much more work than they thought and returned their kids at school as soon as the mandated were dropped.

[-] xxxSexMan69xxx 1 points 2 years ago

Maybe in America

[-] ninpnin@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

A lot of parents don't love their kids. And a lot of parents love their kids but still end up treating them like shit.

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