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[-] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago

The annexations in Ukraine are illegal, but Russia annexing 5 oblasts and Ukraine being locked into a status as a neutral buffer state is not exactly a Hitlerian take-over of Europe.

[-] Farman@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Its not ilegal in russia. Legality is not a real property of things its the opinion of the guy with the biggest army in the area. Thinking otherwise is brainworms

[-] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No, annexation is illegal under the UN charter, of which Russia is a signatory, and wars of aggression are criminal in and of themselves. I'll condemn the illegal annexations performed by Israel and other states, and Russia's annexations fall under the same boat.

To be even more clear, I do think that Russia would have won fair referendums in Donetsk, Luhansk and certainly Crimea. I doubt that would have been the case for the other two oblasts. Still, all of those annexations were illegal. Just because the neo-cons have flouted the UN charter in favor of the ad hoc "rules-based order" doesn't mean others should.

[-] Farman@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

If russian law considers they are part of russia and the russian army is siting there russian law applies there. Thats how it works. If another army is sitting there then legality is whatever those other guys say.

Pretending otherwise is denying realty.

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