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It's been a while, which Lemmy instances should I be on?
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none. join a piefed instance instead.
is there an introduction to piefed instances anywhere? what happened to lemmy that caused ppl to migrate to piefed?
We didn't want to be lending any form of support to developers who deny genocide and promote transphobia.
So we found a more ethical solution and than it turns out the developers are fucking amazing and it's progressing so fast that it's leaving Lemmy in the dust. Many people are now moving because it's offering features and improvements that the Lemmy devs refused to.
Accusations of genocide denial isn’t the cheat code you think it is, or do you not deny the genocide of white South Africans? And what say you to this one? Previously.
And if accusations of promoting transphobia held any water, blahaj & hexbear would have already defederated from us.
More countries doing a genocide is not an argument against another one doing it
Woosh
No, I don't think so
@SkaveRat you show how much you don't know shit.
Whites are not genocided in South Africa, you naive boy.
This is a alt right claim, much like "the great replacement" and other MAGA, extreme right shit.
@fediverse @davel
Sure. But denying a happening genocide can be as right wing as claiming a fake one
Just because nazis use the same words, doesn't invalidate all cases where these words are used
"Just because nazis use the same words"
They use the same words ABOUT THE SAME INSTANCES AS YOU
And because nazis use it, there exist no genocides?
Holy shit please take the time to read and synthesize comments before you respond to them.
I'd advise the same to you. Because I think that we are agreeing
Stop being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian
You're taking the side of nazis on specific lies they're telling under the smug dipshit armchair logic "just because they're saying something doesn't mean it's untrue"
So since you're existing purely in an abstract realm of logic completely disconnected from reality just to argue (again, on behalf of nazis), I think it's more appropriate for you to hear that last line instead of say it.
I'm literally not? Wtf? Pretty much the opposite
In fact the only people who are claiming the genocides you say exist are nazis.
Did I say they exist?
Look. If the mental gymnastics you're currently doing keeps you fit, got for it. I'm out
No one said it does. Either you’re still missing the point or you’re intentionally straw manning.
Edit to add: As to whether the genocide claim holds water, I covered that separately in the “Previously” of the same comment above, as well as elsewhere before[1][2][3][4]. The burden of proof isn’t on genocide deniers but genocide accusers, which is why I say that it isn’t a “cheat code,” as the absurd allegations of South African “white genocide” show.
Q.E.D.
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Wait, THIS is what people are talking about when they say the devs are transphobic?
The dev admitting he said stupid shit in private, supports human rights for everyone, and his personal views should have nothing to do with his work?
Consider the first rule of the Lemmy code of Conduct is:
Yes, I know that’s all you’ve got as far as lemmy.ml promoting transphobia goes.
You are making this about Lemmy.ml to change the subject from this being about the Lemmy devs themselves. You like to deflect a lot I’ve noticed.
For which you have precisely the same “evidence,” no more, no less.
Don't argue with idiots. It's never worth it.
Thanks for the explanation.
Now I know to stick with lemmy.
the hard-line social democrats all started migrating because communists upset them. I'm an anarchist and don't mind it so I'm still here
Nah, you're a tankie.
You can easily find Anarchists on PieFed either on Quokk.au or Anarchist.Nexus though for anyone who wants to join us.
name calling is pretty rude, believe it or not it's possible to be an anarchist and not use one of your instances. for me I find plenty of other anarchists in my day to day organizing, separate from the internet
oh, noted
Why is that supposed to be an insult, I know nothing of tankie But was called one a couple days ago
Tankies are people who supported the use of tanks to attack the civilian protests against the USSR in Hungary and later Czechoslovakia. That became the default term for anyone who supports brutal authoritarian states that suppress the people to assert their control. In modern day context a tankie would be someone who blames Ukraine for being invaded and denies the genocide of the Uyghurs.
Some rightwing/centrists like to use it to insult any leftist. You can just ignore those ones.
I wouldn’t call fascists or CIA- & bourgeois-backed counterrevolutionaries “civilians.”
Fucking hilarious that you whine about the term tankie sounding "othering" to you and then shamelessly trot this line out.
I appreciate you for taking the time to explain this to me, mostly sounds like a term people used to other other people
Pretty much it’s a thought-terminating othering. To label someone a tankie is to give license for prejudicially dismissing them.
I agree 100%, also it reminded me of This Clanker
😂
I guess that’s what inspired this The Deprogram episode title: 📺 Anti Klankkker Action
It’s more of a term to point out that someone is the left equivalent of a Neo Nazi.
There is no left equivalent, and horseshoe theory is horseshit.
Imperialist Propaganda and the Ideology of the Western Left Intelligentsia: From Anticommunism and Identity Politics to Democratic Illusions and Fascism
For the non-tankies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_fascism
Yes, please do read it:
@Deceptichum @dickalan so the fucking UN is tankie? Lol
Were they hard-line demsocs, or were they really just “progressive” liberals?
I'm probably being too generous, but they do tend to identify as that
That's partially true, but not all true at all. Piefed development is way faster currently than Lemmy.
Personally, communists don't bother me. Transphobic developers, however, don't make me want to use their software.
https://join.piefed.social/try/ has a list. There just arn't that many yet but https://anarchist.nexus/ is a solid choice.