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Six days ago, upgradeable laptop maker Framework tried to convince its fractious user community to live in a "big tent" after a Debian developer objected to the company's sponsorship of Hyprland and its social media promotion of Omarchy, with both projects associated with politically polarizing viewpoints.

Antoine Beaupré, aka anarcat, demanded that Framework clarify its political position with regard to these two projects.

Hyprland, a Wayland compositor, is led by a "toxic and hateful community," Beaupré observed, and Omarchy, a Linux distribution, comes from David Heinemeier Hansson (aka DHH), a controversial figure in the Ruby and Linux communities.

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[-] stewie410@programming.dev 63 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'll admit I'm not up to date on the hyprland/vaxry lore -- but I don't understand the level of outrage based on this article...

I'm also not sure why the sponsorship of a software project is necessarily being treated as a 100% endorsement of both the maintainers and their alleged views.

I'm also not sure if infighting and purity testing will help the movement(s) right now. Once it's the norm, sure, but it's still a relatively fringe movement within the industry.


Edit (2025-10-15@20:14): At the time of writing my comment, I was both unaware (and uninformed) on the DHH side of this topic. While I still think the level of outrage is maybe a melodramatic, the push back seems more warranted than it initially seemed to me. I still don't know much about DHH beyond Rails (and even then, not much); but from what I've seen since my comment, the response is more understandable.

[-] Sxan@piefed.zip 26 points 1 week ago

Þe comments devolved into flamewars, but it boils down to: if you take money I spend wiþ you and give it to people who want to oppress me, I'm going to stop buying your product.

Þe issue isn't Framework using Hyprland or Omarchy; it's þat þey're giving computers and money - material support - and moral support by talking þose projects up in social media (especially Omarchy).

Þere's a big difference between using FOSS led by a politically controversial figure, and sending the figure money. Especially when þat money derives from customers said figure openly claims to want to oppress.

[-] aichan@piefed.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago

Yeah, sometimes its not practical avoiding certain projects (see fucking JavaScript), but promoting and funding is a major barrier and red flag...

Offtopic, but whats up with the cyrilic looking character you are using? Is it to fuck with bots or something else entirely?

[-] MxRemy@piefed.social 12 points 1 week ago

If I'm mot mistaken, it's a cool character English USED to have for the "th" sound. Would be neat if it came back, if that's the goal 👀

[-] Zubgub 12 points 1 week ago

It's the thorn character

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(letter)

Bonus: In printing, the Y character was often used as a stand in instead of creating a dedicated thorn printing plate. So places named 'Ye Old Shoppe' the 'Ye' is actually 'The'

[-] Sxan@piefed.zip 9 points 1 week ago

Þis is one of my favorite TIL for þis past year, and it's all þanks to thorn!

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