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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago

The liberal establishment always abandons effective fellow liberals. Sanders, Mamdani, Thunberg…they’re actually trying to do something. That makes the established neolibs look ineffective and upsets their donors. So they turn their backs on the rabble rousers.

[-] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 days ago

The current anger with Sanders appears to be, from an outsiders pov, that he didn't criticize Israel by calling it a genocide soon enough.

That appears to be it.

I mean. To dismiss everything because one mistake, even if that mistake is massive, and then correcting that mistake, if belatedly, to me, says something very positive about that politician.

I'd prefer it was immediate, and it's gross that it took him so long, but all the other stuff isn't cancelled out by that. He's still a net positive. And he DID criticize earlier than any other us politician I can think of, and sure it Could have been even earlier and harsher, but like. Fuck. If you hate politicians for being open to changing mind based on new evidence, or reforming beliefs you don't like, or admitting mistakes, you are AGAINST them being rational and it plays right into the hands of neoliberal propagandists.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

I mean. To dismiss everything because one mistake, even if that mistake is massive, and then correcting that mistake, if belatedly, to me, says something very positive about that politician.

even if it's clear that he's been doubling down on that mistake when presented with the evidence and then only switched it's become clear that the tide has begun turn?

[-] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Better late than never?

Would you rather the kind of politician that just lies constantly?

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

that's what i'm getting at, he's lying (either to himself and/or to the rest of us) and will go with whatever will cause the least friction; aka a follower, not a leader.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

You mean like how he lied about the number of civilians killed on October 7th?

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