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[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

In regards to security, Apple does have three upsides, and only those:

  • No sideloading and no unlocked bootloader means you can't sideload malware or install malware-preloaded ROMs. No root also means you can't just install malware that uses root access.
  • Long OS support means fewer people run around with iPhones that are 5 OS versions behind.
  • There's no tiny boutique iPhone manufacturers who sell phones that come pre-loaded with malware.

The solution for the first one is "don't sideload untrusted stuff" and the solution to the second and third one is "buy an Android phone from a trusted manufacturer that has long term OS support".

[-] liuther9@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Long os support meant to intentionally brick your iphone so you buy new. That is 100% true as I had many apple products started degrading after upgrade and still have old models that are not upgraded and work perfectly

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

I'm not defending apple here. Short OS support (or none at all) is not a good thing, and it's something that's sadly still quite common if you buy the wrong Android brand.

Samsung is doing pretty well in that regard right now.

[-] liuther9@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Sorry, didn't think I had to clarify it. Long support is good IF has good intentions behind it. Most long supported os has bad intentions behind it as making old models inferior and unusable as in case with ios on iphone 5. For example in my opinion windows xp was THE best windows, maybe on par with seven. So if you give me two options, first is updating my phone so it becomes laggy and unusable or keep current version, I will choose to stay on old OS.

[-] princessnorah 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Most long supported os has bad intentions behind it as making old models inferior and unusable as in case with ios on iphone 5.

Your evidence is an iPhone that came out 13 years ago last month? Back in those days, the year over year improvements in the hardware were immense, and the software tried to take advantage of it. But people would complain, A Lot, if those features didn't come to their older device. Do you remember how much folks lost their mind when the iPhone 4 came out and iOS 4 allowed it and the 3GS to have a home screen wallpaper, but not the iPhone 3G? People were pissed and called it "planned obsolescence" that it didn't get the feature. So, when the iPhone 4 hit iOS 7, they included all the animations. And then people called it planned obsolescence that it stuttered.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It really depends on what your goal is. Usability, keeping a familiar interface, performance, all of that are things that make it reasonable to stay on an outdated OS, and none of these reasons are bad.

Security (which is the only thing we are really talking about here) does require updates.

If security is your most important concern, you need to update. If security is not your biggest concern and other topics are more important for you, it might be reasonable to stay on older versions.

But in the context of this post, which was purely about security, having long term security updates is important.

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