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[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 117 points 7 months ago

I respectfully disagree.

The ultra-rich aren't shy about killing you or your loved ones if it makes them an extra million. There are exceptions, but they're definitely not the rule.

Tit for tat. We're absolutely in a class war and the owner class has been winning for three or four consecutive decades. The inequality in society was lower during the French revolution than it is now. Hell, the pay Scrooge gave out in the old tale was more than minimum wage is today adjusted for inflation.

I'm not saying we need violence, but I am saying we need the threat of violence for these kind of people to do their part. No one needs a billion dollars, let alone a trillion.

[-] nova_dragon@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I also respectfully disagree. Tit for tat, taken to its logical conclusion, eradicates all life on the planet; if that's your goal, fine, you can make that argument, but that's ultimately a separate discussion. There were literal slaves and serfs around the time of the French Revolution---now you could make an argument that "wage slaves" or whatever exist in the first world, but that is pure abstraction when compared to the absolute widespread human suffering in France during the late 1700s. You would have to be entirely disconnected from reality to think that people, en masse, have it worse in first world countries than they did in France during the 1700s; that's a "log off" moment, for sure. If you want to expand the scope to the world at large, then, yeah, there is some fucked up stuff going on, and people (millionaires, billionaires, &c. &c.) do hoard wealth, but murdering them is not the solution; that won't even do anything to their accumulated wealthy, as most of it is tied up in corporate assets; instead, harsh regulation needs to be enacted on the system that allows these people to accumulate obscene amounts of wealth. instead, we have these very surface level takes that are just like "kill the billionaires", which solves nothing—frankly, its stupid. Now, if you want to alter the claim to "the threat of violence is needed," then I would be more inclined to agree; however, individually murdering certain billionaires is not productive; I don't know about you, but I don't want to match whatever vitriolic bullshit eye for an eye sentiment that these billionaires might have, and maybe that's an idealistic take and naive, but it feels right.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Despite the downvotes, you are correct.

It’s asinine to even consider that a billionaire doesn’t have a will, let alone how awful it is to threaten a life.

They’d just be dealing with a younger, more entitled billionaire, who now wants to get revenge on the people that murdered their parent or benefactor. See Lachlan Murdoch, Charles Koch, any of the Waltons, etc.

[-] Frittiert@feddit.org 33 points 7 months ago

You're being empathic towards people who have no empathy for you.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

How is recognizing the financial failsafes of billionaires empathetic? I’m using logic.

Did you miss the entire point of my comment because I also condemned taking a life?

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