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Gaza police battle gang members accused of stealing humanitarian aid
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From the Haaretz article:
Hearsay is not evidence.
Being near something is not evidence of having done it.
Why would the IDF attack a convoy they they themselves approved?
Hearsay is not evidence.
Reports by who? With what evidence?
Clearly objectivity and media literacy are at an all time low. What a shame.
This is not a court proceeding, so saying "hearsay is not evidence" is pointless. Witness testimony before a court would be evidence. And all we know as of now points towards Israel doing it. The details will have to be proven in court, when they eventually get their Nuremberg.
You're right. In fact the stakes are much higher than a court proceeding, as is the need to be accurate and certain about allegations.
It would be, if the witness was someone deemed to be credible and if what they saw was consistent with other confirmed facts.
You should be glad that we happen to live in a world where "I saw them do it!" alone isn't enough to convict someone of a serious crime.
Good! And if/when that time comes, and the details are proven beyond a reasonable doubt with hard evidence, then it can be said to be a fact. What a concept, eh?
As of now, what you are describing is little more than a conspiracy theory akin to "stop the steal", flat earth, birtherism, and so on. All this conversation has shown is that the Lemmy groupthink is just as prone to believing conspiracy theories and propaganda that conforms to their biases as some of the wack-jobs on the far right.
If the story was flipped and we were accusing Palestinians of burning down an Israeli school I'd be making all the same points. You know why? Because If your standards for truth and objectivity morph and change depending on which side of the holy war you're talking about, then you don't really give a damn about the truth at all, do you?
Wow, you're quite divorced from reality. What is a credible witness to you then? Something like this perchance?
Nice story bro. As far as I know, no one has been convicted before a court for the October 7th attacks. We shouldn't talk about the massacres then, right? 🤡
Ooh, the ad homenim into family guy meme baseless "you're racist" strawman argument.
Now you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel of stupid shit to say, aren't you?
You're the one bringing race into this and I can only hazard a guess why....
Nice one "bro", but there are hundreds of hours of high-resolution video footage of October 7th, much of which was recorded and published by Hamas militants themselves. Innocent people being fucking shot and killed, their homes and communes ransacked, men, women and children taken captive (about 100 of which are still unaccounted for today).
Is this your idea of good argument? Denial of a objectively horrible and well-documented massacre of people in broad daylight?
If so, that pretty disgusting. You dropped this 🤡
IF the evidence behind October 7th was "I dunno maybe it happened because someone says that they saw someone who looked like Hamas do something near something else but maybe not", then I would also have a very difficult time accepting that as fact. I would want to some actual evidence of that, wouldn't you?
Someone like you, who is more biased and hateful, would gladly accept something so inconclusive as a fact to justify their feelings of blind anger and tribal vengeance.
This holy war will go on for another 80 years because of people like you who are willing to believe anything that makes them feel better about whichever side of this pointless bullshit that they happen to subscribe to.
this holy war will not go on for another 80 years. because at the current rate, every Palestinian left in Gaza will be dead in a year. and you seem to be fine with Israel withholding aid and now, according to current evidence (but not yet proven in an international court) destroying or helping destroy what little aid does get in.
I'm done with this, I'm blocking you now. I'm sick of having to argue that genocide is wrong.
And the other possibility is that Hamas set their own school on fire because....?
I love that you will attempt to break that argument down, yet just ignore the complete idiocy of the only real alternative.
Nothing can ever happen unless maplebar witnesses it personally
Wouldn't be the first time...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/14/gaza-civilians-afraid-to-leave-home-after-bombing-of-safe-routes
Or the 2nd... or the 3rd...
https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/5932/Israel-uses-its-%E2%80%98safe-corridor%E2%80%99-in-Gaza-as-trap-to-murder-and-detain-Palestinians-fleeing-Israeli-violence
https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/israel-turns-safe-corridor-gazas-south-trap-kill-hungry-forcibly-displaced-palestinians-enar
If you're not even going to believe Israeli media...
Idiots believe "media", intelligent people believe concrete evidence, of which there is none to back up the original claim.