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[-] noorbeast@lemmy.zip 47 points 9 months ago

Not being American have I got this right, there is a bipartisan bill aimed at punishing South Africa for raising what the the International Court of Justice then subsequently found it plausible Israel has committed acts of genocide against Gaza?

If the US wants to advocate for adherence to a rules based order then it has to be willing to abide by it, otherwise why would others?

[-] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 16 points 9 months ago

PFFFT HAHAHAHA

The us? adhere to a rules-based order? That's fuckin rich. No, the US will have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the light like germany in the 40s one of these days.

[-] regul@lemm.ee 16 points 9 months ago

Ah but it is rules-based. The rule is that the US gets to do whatever it wants. And if other countries don't do what the US wants, then the US gets to punish them.

[-] AreaSIX@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago

Notice the gradual shift from an international order based on international law to the current "rules-based" international order that has happened during the last 2 decades? The ICJ is an arbiter of international law while the rules-based order is based on arbitrary rules made by the US and mostly NATO allies not necessarily related to international law. This shift was designed for situations like this where adherence to these arbitrary rules can be used to override/ignore international law. So when the highest court in the world when it comes to international law rules that the case brought by SA has clear merit, the US can punish SA for bringing the case in the first place and pretend that's by the rules.

[-] Aidinthel@reddthat.com 17 points 9 months ago

I'm always skeptical of any story about a bill being submitted. There's a lot of steps between that and it even getting a vote. Is this really newsworthy? Let me know if it gets through committee, then I'll care.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago

Biden is destroying the USs credibility. At this rate the "rules based international order" will be just the US and some allies 🙄

[-] ganksy@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

What does Biden have to do with the US Congress?

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Bully

Pulpit

Also watch him sign this lol

[-] forrgott@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago

Oh, really. What credibility? Bush Sr and Jr already had demolished most of what remained, and Trump gathered up anything left and set it on fire. There was literally nothing left to destroy.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Obama created the illusion that Democratic presidents, at least, are reliable and reasonable and diplomatic rulers. Vicious imperialist monsters, yes, but ones that would abide by their own professed "rules based order". Biden is destroying that last figleaf of credibility by overreaching so hard to support Israel. I don't think anyone will be fooled about things ever going "back to normal".

[-] Uvine_Umbra@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Look deep enough, there's gonna be a bill to install irradiated cream cheese into trident nuclear missiles...

As an American, notify us when it gets by either the house or Senate

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