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[-] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“NO COPS ALLOWED. That’s the confirmed policy of the bakery chain Reem’s,” the union said in its post. “One of our officers was denied service last weekend because he was in uniform. Reem’s confirms that they will not serve anyone armed and in uniform. Presumably, this includes members of the US Military.”

That is the response of the police union via twitter or whatever.

They seem to think that cops == soldiers.

Which is gross as cops are civilians and soldiers are not. Soldiers understand trigger discipline and cops do not.

[-] LeadSoldier@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Correct. I've served in three wars and am a disabled vet for it. Cops keep saying they kill because they are scared and the public and courts accepts it. My 18 year old soldiers were scared to walk down the streets in Iraq, surrounded by a populace caring ak-47's and having terrible trigger discipline. My soldiers didn't randomly kill people though. Being a cop is easy. Don't let them tell you otherwise. They are fat from inactivity and kill when they have a built in excuse.

Americans are allowed to have guns. Thinking someone has a gun isn't even a good enough reason to kill, but they do it all the time.

ACAB.

[-] candybrie@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Also most US soldiers are not armed while hanging out in the US.

[-] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The false equivalency is staggering. Cops are the little bitches who wouldn't enlist cus they would "knock out the DI".

[-] LeadSoldier@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'm a veteran and a protester who did arrest his occasionally. It's amazing how proud of them so they are for violating the constitution.

My current argument is that they used a drug dog to search my car which has never had drugs in or near it. Apparently the fourth amendment doesn't exist anywhere in America if they can get an animal to sit.

[-] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Fuck the military too. Arguably they're worse than cops, the fact that they only murder people in other countries doesn't give them a pass.

[-] joneskind@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Tell that to Ukrainian soldiers you dumbfuck

[-] LeadSoldier@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I was a soldier and I hear you loud and clear.

I wish some wars I was in were honorably defending my country instead of being in Iraq and Afghanistan and gathering the intelligence that allowed soldiers to go shoot the poorly equipped group of people who were mad at us for invading and torturing and killing their family members constantly.

TORTURE was used and defended by Bush lawyers.

It's not the military that is the problem, but our politicians who control it.

[-] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Good for this bakery! Uniiformed officers already make people uncomfortable, adding arms to the situation is could be terrifying for anyone, let alone someone who has any sort of PTSD or general fear of the police.

The police can't seem to see the situation for what it is though. It certainly isn't discrimination, LEOs are hardly a protected class and no one is saying they can't come in once they ditch the uniform and weapons. It's more like the opposite of a no shirt, no shoes policy.

[-] Chais@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

Wasn't California the state that decided it's ok to not serve homosexuals based on fairy tales?
Because this seems to be much more grounded in reality.

[-] iquanyin@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

@Chais

@MonsiuerPatEBrown

it’s always been ok for a private business to pick and choose. choice is nothing if you don’t have the choice to be a flaming asshole. (and i say this as a bisexual person, but one who has long followed lawyers and egalitarian stuff because it’s interesting and it sometimes directly changes the world i live in). the police union is one of the biggest scourges in this country. a private business doesn’t have to serve them either. but of course, they will whine and intimidate and do all their other bullcrap.

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