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[-] hark@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Americans may be surprised to find that foreigners actually don't pay as much attention to US elections as they think. Even many people in the US don't care, they're just inundated with media coverage of it. At most about 66% of eligible voters even vote and the people that do vote aren't necessarily informed. You may have seen interviews with undecided voters. They turn up to vote but haven't necessarily put much thought into it.

As an aside, I find it funny when Americans scream about other countries empire building and carrying out provocative military exercises when the US has so many military bases everywhere. You don't need to officially annex land to control it, that's old style thinking.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

America: Establishes military bases, missile silos, CIA blacksites, international espionage agreements to violate the rights of the citizens in dozens of countries, has invaded and overturned governments because they disagree with what the president wants, calls itself the world police.

Americans: "Why are so many non-Americans invested in what goes on in our country? I know we're a big deal, but why would anyone be interested? Must be paid actors and bots! I don't care about French elections, why would they care about American?"

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago

Dear Earth,

The U.S. is about to fuck over humanity.

Zero fucks about climate change.

Leadership connections with the worst ass hats on the planet.

I apologize.

I wish y'all the best.

[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 16 points 10 hours ago
[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Inauguration ain't till January

[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 13 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)
[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Cool.

I'm sure there will be no difference in the US's impact on and relations with the rest of the world once Trump realizes over for Biden.

I'm glad it'll be the same, because I was thinking it'd get worse.

Silly me!

[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 12 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

During Clinton’s administration 500,000 Iraqi children were killed through sanctions and Albright on 60 Minutes said it was worth it.

Now during Biden we have a genocide with over 50,000 dead.

The US foreign policy has been terrible even under Democrats. Liberals only care when the president is a Republican.

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

We were never good, we've just excavated a whole new bottom to hit. It's almost impressive considering how much we've always sucked.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Americans: Why don't foreigners care about every aspect of America every second of every day?

[-] jayaura@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 day ago

The picture is an exaggeration. India DOES NOT allow foreign military bases

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_black_sites

Sri Lanka participated in the US redition process. This image is also rather old. Very likely the Modi government has opened the back door to this shit in the last ten years.

[-] kerrypacker@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Yeah the Aussie presence is in completely the wrong spots too. It's bullshit.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

Neither does Pakistan, those are actually super top secret CIA outposts lol

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 82 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

American exceptionalism is ingrained so deep in most people here that they would never even consider or doubt why the world pays attention to them, just: "Duh of course they do, because we're America!"

[-] modifier@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago

Correct. I think the entire premise that an American would question this idea is an indication that the meme was made by somebody from a country with one of these pins in it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending this mindset. I am myself an American making this observation with a sense of shame and mild horror.

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I abolutely agree. In American culture, this is treated more like a natural law, like the Sun rising each day or objects falling down when dropped. It is just something self-evident and isn't even a thought that occurs in most American's heads.

[-] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Going by experience here, the American WILL question this idea the very seconds the foreign has a diverging opinion or calls them out on something.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

👋 yep... Tbh, I just never thought through the "their shit is next door" part.. just the "they have a lot of shit" part

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Or they could realize the reality of the situation without making it about taking credit for being "the best". As an American I know our country sucks, especially now, and also that it's important for global stability.

Nah, it's probably what you said. I just truly think the US is way better than any other country. /s

Edit: I missed that they wrote "most". In my defense though a lot of users are currently cruelly shitting on Americans unconditionally. A lot of us didn't want this bullshit

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[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The US doesn't have any military bases in Alaska? Not even one?

[-] alphanerd4@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Huh. 🤔 . They do of course. https://militarybases.com/alaska I also see 9. :T well that’s annoying. Now that I look closer I do see Closed military bases on this list and the scale is absolutely horrendous. Decidedly not effective for communicating information specifically, but great for reaffirming the general you know like the US has a bunch of them and it operates troops and such out of them

[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

take note canadians

[-] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Certainly does. My father-in-law served up there, which he thought was a much better assignment than Vietnam. It was pretty important for early ICBM detection from Russia, since the shortest path to the continental US is through the arctic circle. Still is, so yes, there's bases up there.

[-] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

and in hindsight, it turned out to have been much better than going to Vietnam

[-] anon6789@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This site says there are 9. 3 Army, 3 Air Force, 3 Coast Guard.

[-] Jerb322@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

And where's the one in antarctica they're always threatening to send people to?

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 day ago

Imagine if China had bases like that

[-] uhmbah@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

If you do a search for "are there secret chinese police stations in canada", would that count?

[-] wpb@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Not to be a china apologist, but overt military presence in the form of missiles and boots on the ground is very different from clandestine operations abroad. Basically all major powers have the latter. What do you think the CIA is?

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago

If you mean https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_police_overseas_service_stations, then yes, but imagine they have soldiers and illegal weapons and claim to be ensuring stability of the region

[-] anon6789@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

My first thought was to wonder if we'll try to buy Greenland again.

Apparently, some have been pushing that last week already...

Sorry, World. 😑

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

If the US bought Denmark, they'd probably get Greenland with it. Just saying.

(now some idiot is probably going to try this)

[-] anon6789@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

In 3 months we're going to have a Secretary of Defense that's on the Fox and Friends B-Team, and a panel of MAGA generals purging the ranks. I am not ruling anything out of the future timeline we're on....

These are some of the same people who don't know who the president of Puerto Rico is, so they might just move in thinking the place is abandoned.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I’ve never once wondered this.

[-] egrets@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Comparisons here on Wikipedia, sometimes on the linked page.

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago

To be fair the red balloons shown are much less deadly than American military bases.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Seems like they just hate industrious hard working war mongers. Can't a warlord catch a break?

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

Iirc the way these bases work is with the agreement from the host country.

[-] Absaroka@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Tell that to Cuba.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 day ago
[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Having a US military base (that wasn't forcibly installed by the US military) in your country is usually great for a country's security at a fantasic price. Especially if you're a country that's not likely to have an adversarial relationship with the US.

The US isn't likely going to invade or go to war with Romania anytime soon, so having US military thousands of US troops, aircraft, and the world's most advanced missile defense systems placed there offers great security that they're paying for just by being located in a strategically useful position.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 hours ago
[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

That was CIA interference.

It's bad, but it doesn't require a military presence.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 hours ago

Yes, I'm sure the presence of Pine Ridge had nothing to do with it. The CIA never coordinates with the US military after all.

Okay, how about the US service members that keep sexually assaulting women in Japan?

[-] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

You’re interrupting the circle jerk.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Iirc the way these bases work is with the agreement from the host ~~country~~ country's government and most definitely NOT the people of said country.

FTFY.

[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

to be fair, most of these countries allow usa bases because of the countries that explicitly dont have usa bases. see map.

they use expensive infrastructure and most countries would rather fund their own bases.

oooo cake 🎂

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

You got down voted because some folks are either ignorant of wider geopolitics, or of certain inclination and don't want to hear the inconvenient truth.

I am originally from Philippines which hosted a major US military base. Despite the protests, the Americans did not leave until a major volcanic eruption nearby prompted them to do so in the early 90s. I am anti-imperialists as much as the next guy and the overseas American military presence is an on-the-face sign of imperialism, but the fact of the matter is that many countries literally "free ride" under American protective umbrella. It saves the country money and deter rivals. That being said, in hindsight the Americans should not have left, as China has now started claiming an entire sea region and bullying Filipino and Vietnamese fishermen. China has also literally set up a military base within 200 nautical miles of Philippine exclusive economic zone without permission, which the international court deemed to be illegal.

Many Filipinos changed their tune from "go home Yankees" to "Yankees come back! You should have stayed" because hindsight is 20/20. Right now, American soldiers are dripping back slowly to the Philippines since the Chinese military is still squatting.

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