Trump, the same Trump that killed boarder legislation because he didn't want to give biden a win?
Not him, no, never.
Via user kingshrubb: Apparently she retracted her comments https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/22/world/middleeast/trump-netanyahu-cease-fire-talks-israel-woodruff-pbs.html
I'm gonna need more than somebody's social media post on this.
Edit: Because right now it's "somebody's" social media post with an unsourced and undated quote from "someone" referring to "reporting," with a picture of a lady that has a PBS/NewsHour watermark. This is exactly the kind of thing you should be skeptical of in the absence of better confirmation, all up and down that ladder of vagueness.
You right, ill change my title.
Edit: Here's the original discussion w/ timestamp. I want to say, I've been avoiding xwitter for so long I really hate linking it right now.
Here's a couple links if anyone wants to venture down this rabbit hole
https://www.axios.com/2024/08/15/trump-netanyahu-gaza-hostage-ceasefire-deal-call
https://www.reuters.com/world/netanyahu-denies-report-he-spoke-trump-about-gaza-talks-2024-08-15/
Edit2:
Possible replacement for that twitter link, here's an article discussing Woodruff's comments - https://web.archive.org/web/20240820213405/https://newrepublic.com/post/185076/donald-trump-scheme-beat-kamala-harris-benjamin-netanyahu-ceasefire
I would delete it but it's too relevant to the meme. Alternative link to the dnc footage would be nice, tho.
The rueters one doesn't indicate anything about Trump talking to Bibi and discouraging him from setting up a peace deal.
To me it's still relevant because it establishes that trump has an open line of communication to bibi and he is directly expressing to him his thoughts about the Genocide in Gaza.
Wish there was more reporting around this.
Agreed. The "lady" is Judy Woodruff, PBS anchor and correspondent since it was the MacNeill-Lehrer News Hour, so it would greatly surprise me if she didn't have some credible evidence behind "the reporting is".
But I missed that moment last night, so I'd want to be sure she said it.
So like the alleged deal between the Reagan campaign and Iran during the hostage crisis to get elected and oust Carter?
Or Kissinger and North Vietnam to get Nixon elected. It's a time honored Republican strategy.
What do you mean? Oliver North took all the blame!
Oh no, you're thinking of Iran-Contra, the other treasonous act that Reagan committed involving Iran. OP is talking about the rumored deal Reagan made with Iran wherein Iran would not release the American hostages until after the 1980 election. Coincidentally, the hostages were released on January 20th, 1981, the day Reagan was sworn in.
Sidenote, has anyone seen the Netflix documentary about the octopus murders? I think the proof that Reagan made that deal is at the heart of that conspiracy.
Edit: I've just come across this in another thread. It seems the hostage deal between Reagan and Iran did, in fact, happen. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a43368900/reagan-iran-hostages/
Aw shucks. You know just when you think you hone in on one depraved scandal of Reagan, you realize you're mixing it up with another depraved scandal of Reagan.
I do not recall.
It is crazy to me that all of the "Genocide Joe" crowd don't see that Netanyahu wants Trump to win so he can show the world what genocide actually looks like.
Well, not that crazy, considering a good portion of them are propagandists.
It all so closely resembles 2016. Remember the phantom Bernie Facebook groups? Remember "Bernie supporters" voting trump instead. They think we are idiots and some of us must be for falling for it, time, and time again.
I've noticed a considerable lack of the usual suspects from that particular crowd in this thread.
Where is our little rogues gallery right now? Every single thread for every little detail any Dem does, they are reliably in the comments screeching. "How wretched is this miserable party to stoop so low, how despicable their voters!" But I haven't seen any of them in this thread.
Isn't him doing that illegal? Like very illegal?
Do you think either Trump or Netanyahu gives a single shit about what's legal?
look, he’s doing this in the context of his presidential duties, this makes it completely legal, duh, fucking serfs getting uppity. ~~SCOTUS
Maybe if they stopped sending billions in weapons to Israel they could make something happen.
Lol I was like "hold on, I've seen this one"
I feel like Nixon at least knew how to wear a suit.
"Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable with imprisonment for up to three years."
I can only say: Lock him up!
Boy, if this had happened twice I'd have two nickels.
OH WAIT
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_October_Surprise_theory
Republicans just genuinely don't have any original ideas.
It's posts like this that always oddly have 0 tankie comments lamenting about genocide Joe. Weird how that is, it's like they avoid all articles that disprove their entire worldview. Crazy.
I want to point out that there may not be that many "tankies" on Lemmy. And Biden isnt running right ? So its not "genocide Joe" .... it is now in Kamala's court.
Problem: Kamala is tough on crime, Kamala is tough on bordercontrol ( she famously told people "DO NOT COME TO THE UNITED STATES". She is strong in every talking point Conservatives and Right-wing media are throwing at establishment democrats.
So "tankies" are the far-left commies, so they agree on everything to the other extreme with right-wing nuts.
Kamala is poison to both extreme groups. Hence crickets you get silence.
Hey I'm pretty extreme and anti-genocide, but I think we all hope she just wins so we can start giving her a hard time about Israel and her conservative stances, without worrying about the much worse option getting elected.
But I'm not even American. So the domestic aspect doesn't impact me and much, beyond of course wanting the best for you guys
To all the "Harris and Trump are the same crowd, stop being so cowardly and try to say that shit here and now. Or don't, and confirm that this whole time you were being wilfully ignorant because you enjoy purity politics nonsense.
Just when you think he couldn't be any more cartoonishly evil.
"Oh waiter, more genocide please"
Something, something, Iran Hostage Crisis, something, something, more bullshit from the Reagan playbook
Oh I'm just sure that Linkerbaan is reposting this as we speak. Since he totally wasn't lying about Trump supposedly trying to negotiate a ceasefire lol
man I'm against genocide as much as any reasonable person. but fuck that guy.
Doesn't that violate some US law? He is not authorized to negotiate with a foreign power. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act
The only reason I could believe it, is that it's happened before. See: Reagan and the Iran hostages.
Still, I'm going to need a better source. This seems uncharacteristically competent.
We don't want boarders though. They will just kill us all and take our ship.
It’s Iran-Contra all over again.
I don't want an end to killing because the killing helps me.
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