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[-] BatrickPateman@lemmy.world 212 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

First they were the second most powerful army in the world.

Then they were the second most powerful in Ukraine.

And now they are the second most powerful in Russia.

I like they way this is going 🤗.

[-] Darkard@lemmy.world 69 points 1 month ago

Second most powerful in Moscow 🤞😬🤞

[-] lauha@lemmy.one 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Second most powerful in Putin's dreams

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Would be wild if they took over Russia and Zelenskyy became the president of Russia.

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

they made a classic blunder- the one slightly more well known than getting into it with a scillian when death is on the line! Getting into a land war in Asia!

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

Wait. But aren't they Asia? Lol

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Russia is. (ukraine may not be. Usually the distinction is a bit further east of Ukraine- around the ural mountains.)

but.

Russia definitely are asian. So. given that they picked a fight on their border... I'm gonna go ahead and say "close enough" to make fun of them.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 8 points 1 month ago

I think it's probably more correct to say Russia straddles the border between Europe and Asia. The people in charge are European, and Asian Russians are treated more like serfs and cannon fodder. Disclaimer: I am not a social scientist.

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 133 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Go Ukraine, fuck Russia.
A not very wealthy country of about only 120 million people wanted to play superpower.
They were offered peace, cooperation and prosperity, but instead they chose corruption and confrontation.
Russia could very possibly have been the biggest economy in Europe by now, if they had chosen cooperation. That would have made them more powerful and influential than all the bullshit they've pulled to undermine the west and their neighbors.

[-] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 1 month ago

I totally agree.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, they were handed everything they wanted on a silver plate.

They could have been Poland on steroids.

But they chose to reject it, so stupid.

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago

Russians have been brainwashed for centuries by their elites to thinking corruption is the natural order of things.

They can't believe that western nations can have shows of wealth and quality of life standards they do, because that means the way they and their ancestors have lived for decades isn't how people are supposed to live.

Their elites steal everything, ensure education standards are low as possible so their workers can just barely manage to operate in a factory, on a farm or in a mine, and then encourage them to stay drunk as possible during their waking hours.

And then they wonder why Russians who manage to emigrate west never go home and sooner or later cut all contact with their backwards motherland.

Frankly if it hadn't been for the advent of Nuclear Weapons, and Soviets stealing designs for them from America, Russia never would have been a Superpower at all and probably collapse in on itself in the 60s.

[-] LibreHans@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Their elites steal everything

You think the western elites don't? It's just slower..

[-] gnutrino@programming.dev 37 points 1 month ago

The trick is not to steal faster than the economy can produce. It's like organic, fair trade, sustainable kleptocracy.

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Western elites do steal, true. But to no where near the same extent. We'd have trillionaires in the west if they stole as much as Russian oligarchs do.

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[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 43 points 1 month ago

wanted to play superpower

As someone who is from that region, it's not even that. A whole lot of countries want to play superpower, and they are only mildly hated for it. The US, the French, even the Chinese are an abstract economic threat. The Russians want to play 18th century superpower and that makes them a concrete military threat.

The stupid thing is, just by looking at the state of the world right now, they totally would have won the long game if they went soft power only. Putin is a failure that way as well I guess.

[-] suction@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

At some point we’ll probably have to admit that they’re culturally not inclined to do good. That and the rampant alcohol abuse is holding them back.

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[-] slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 115 points 1 month ago

To my knowledge, it's the first time in history that a non-nuclear power invaded and occupied territory belonging to a nuclear power.

So, that's even more dubious history Putin played a part in.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

A very nuclear power at that.

[-] ytg@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 month ago

Well, if you consider Israel to be a nuclear power…

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Serious question: was Israel really occupied at any point in time during, this or past, post maybe nuclear power times?

I don't think a short term raid that's immediately repelled necessarily counts as occupation in this sense.

My Israel history is also very limited

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[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 82 points 1 month ago

Putin is finally making history, his legacy will now be remembered forever. What a great accomplishment! They said it would be over in 3 days, over two years later and now Ukrainian troops are in control of Russian territory.

Amazing what Ukraine has managed to pull off here. Watching closely to see how this unfolds.

[-] biofaust@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

You mean Putin, the Poisoner of Underwear?

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 64 points 1 month ago

Another chance to use my new Ukrainian Riker!

(He's Rikrainian.)

[-] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

He's going to struggle to perform the riker manoeuvre with a horn of that size..

It’s about the commitment to the leg throw, not the size of the hog in the hedgerow

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[-] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago

Jesus Christ, this is painful to read if you can read Cyrillic letters

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

If I wrote "playing a sour note" in Ukrainian, no one would understand it.

Including me.

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[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago

Ukraine and Russia are uniting into one country. Just not the way Putin envisioned.

[-] recapitated@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago

He wanted a war, so he got one.

[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I mean right?

Fuck around and find out and all that!

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[-] exanime@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

Oh no, poor Putin

But remember, when god closes a door, he certainly opens a window...

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[-] eronth@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Wowee, all he had to do was not be a shitter and this wouldn't have happened. Now it will be his eternal reputation in history books.

[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

This is all history will remember him for. A botched violent and illegal invasion of a peaceful country for absolutely no good reason whatsoever!

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

that and running russia for what 30 years now with Medvedev, starting a war on an alleged false flag attack and then running some kind of invasion every handful of years like clockwork.

What's funny is before Alex Jones became a giant putin simp he had, possibly correctly, suggested putin blew up some russian buildings to start a war in 1999

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings

[-] anakin78z@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Yes, it's the embarrassment that's really important here. 🙄

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 month ago

Surprisingly, yes. For that kind of people, public perception is everything

It really is. The only way for this to end, is for Putin to lose support internally.

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[-] atro_city@fedia.io 8 points 1 month ago

OK, yes, but how are the front lines further south going?

[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Russia has undeniably made gains. Avdiivka is comparable in size to the Russian territory taken by Ukraine. Except it took Russia a year and 30,000 casualties and hundreds of armored vehicles losses. Ukraine's push into Russia has happened over days and Russia still hasn't pivoted with a coherent response.

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