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[-] dogsnest@lemmy.world 94 points 3 months ago

"Thought Experiment"

-- Anita Cushion.

[-] Tom_Hanx_the_Actor@lemmy.world 67 points 3 months ago

For some reason the phrase "thought experiment" makes me want to beat the shit out of the person who said it.

[-] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 44 points 3 months ago

A thought experiment is a valid philosophical process though, it's supposed to be theoretical and for the sake of the argument.
And here, it's clearly not a thought experiment, because they'll definitely go though if they can, he's just being a racist shitbag using big words to appear smart to his electorate.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's like this shit manager I used to work under.

who once ambushed me coming into work with "we need to change the schedule" (to some whacky schedule because he didn't want to hire more people.). he gave me all the five minutes he took to explain the schedule which and then promptly told me that if I had a problem with it, I would be removed from the account that this was coming from "the client" (contract security. For reference the security desk was five feet from the property manager... who, uh, was at her desk looking like she wanted to call his shit on things.)

told him I needed time to thing about it- which he insisted he needed to know 'immediately'. so I told him I had to go get my normal stuff rolling and called his boss on the way over informing him I'd need to find a new account.

"what are you talking about?"

"Shtibag manager just pitched this whacky ass schedule that I can't work. said if I didn't like it I would be terminated. So I'm asking for a new account effective immediately."

You'd be surprised how quickly that manager changed his tune to "Bro I was just floating the IDEA!" The thing was, this manager was a lying sack of shit and everyone under him was recording their conversations with him. Because he's been pulling this shit with everyone.

this guy was the kind of manager who measured a manager's worth by their ability to fuck over their underlings. he was also a racist, sexist shit

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Depends. Schrödinger's cat is a famous thought experiment and so are various other fun theoretical science bits like the multiple "paradoxes" in general relativity (twins, ladder, rocket string...). (Obligatory mention that Schrödinger would deserve a beating but because he was a pedophile)

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

That girl was simultaneously of age and underage. It's everyone else's fault for observing her.

[-] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

It's almost "just asking questions"

[-] dogsnest@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

"Hypothetically, if I wasn't a flaming douchenozzle, would you buy me a beer?"

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

pretty sure that's not so much what he said, so much as his face.

he has a very punchable face. So soft and unlikely to break your fist.

[-] dogsnest@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

For some reason, that would be the second-easiest beating to unsee, after nazi.

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago

Once they realize that "having kids" does not mean you're white, and, in fact, correlates with being black or brown, he'll stop having his "thought experiment."

White people are having less kids than any other racial demographic in the United States.

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Me-Well I have three sons so me and wife get 3 extra votes to vote for Harris making it a total of 5 in my house hold?

JD Vance (couch fucker)- Not like that.

This guy fucking dumber than bag of nails.

[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Don't worry. I'm sure phase two will involve the Originalist SCOTUS ruling that only literal landowners actually get a vote so all those people of color who rent in urban areas won't get to vote no matter how many kids they have.

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

And then phase three: you get three extra votes for every five slaves you own.

[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Was that phase three? I thought phase three was when they rule that employers get the votes of any employees who don't own their own homes.

[-] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 months ago

That's a big part of it though. While yes there are benefits to oligarchs forxing births on the poor, many of these force brithers are white supremacists afraid of great replacement. They want white women to be forced to make more white babies, want parents to be able to give away child brides (this allows them to control who the white women marry), and people who are into their stuff like quiverfulls to have more rights.

Remember there was a hint of trying to tear down the decision that protected interracial marriage as well, which also aims for more controlled births.

[-] Pandantic@midwest.social 5 points 3 months ago

people who are into their stuff like quiverfulls to have more rights.

And by all accounts, these are the white demographic having the most kids, even if white birth rates are lower, swinging the “white vote” by a great margin. Not to mention all of those arian eugenics tech bros…

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Doubtful. Non-white children already make up a dominant majority of children in the United States (~60%), and that trend is increasing.

[-] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

I’m not convinced that the people having 8 kids are demonstrating the intelligence deserving of 8 extra votes.

[-] FanciestPants@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Yeah, maybe instead he should be arguing for people without kids to have fewer votes. Maybe, just picking a number at random here, like they should get 3/5 of a vote.

/s

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 6 points 3 months ago

The funny part is that when people jokingly suggest certain people should get 3/5 of a vote, they're overlooking an important detail that makes it even worse: slaves never got 3/5 of a vote; their owners got the extra votes.

[-] Pandantic@midwest.social 5 points 3 months ago

Maybe each kid should only be worth 3/5ths a vote with all these child labor laws going out the window.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That thought experiment unleashes multiple cans of worms.

(Warning: "Quoted" bits are imaginary strawmen but I believe you will find Republicans holding these positions.)


"Life begins at conception"

Do pregnant women cast more votes? Is there going to be a pregnancy test at voting stations? Or ultrasound to check for twins?


"Parents have a bigger reason to care about future, as their kids will live in it."

— Kids aren't copies of their parents... why not decrease the voting age instead?

"No, older people know better"

[-] Pandantic@midwest.social 8 points 3 months ago

The thing that chafes me more than these things is the fact that this automatically makes the votes of young people who should, by all accounts, not yet have kids, worth less than older people or people who who have kids at young age (and are probably in a worse position to take care of said kids), further disenfranchising young people from voting.

[-] BaldManGoomba@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

If you will be 18 during any elected official term you should be able to vote for them. This allows some kids to vote as young as 12 for senators and get to vote at 14 for president's and congress people. Then at the worst thing 18 year old seniors can vote for school admin elections

[-] howrar@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago

This makes sense if you start with the axiom that the state exists to serve those who are 18 and over. But it doesn't. It serves everyone. The age threshold is to ensure you have enough life experience to understand the impact of your vote.

[-] jumjummy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

And by that logic, old people shouldn’t get to vote anymore since “they’re not as invested in the future” either. See what happens to the GOP vote when klanma can no longer vote.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Yes, deporting one million hardcore Trumpists sounds like a good start.

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

Russia could use them. Let them live their glorious conservative homeland with direct flights from the Deep South.

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