We pasteurized milk for a reason, raw milk was a cause of a lot of issues.
There's not much of a reason to drink milk nowadays anyway. Oat milk has become so good in emulating the taste of cow milk that there's just no point in going for the original product with all its massive downsides.
Please give me recommendations of oat milk that tastes good. I’ve been desperately looking and/or hoping for bacterial production to kick off to make it more environmentally sustainable, but I haven’t found anything that tastes remotely as good (on its own or in a latte). I drink ultrafiltered milk for what it’s worth, usually 2% so I don’t need the creamy aspect, I just like the flavor.
For me, Planet Oat's milk is pretty good, but their "Barista Lovers" version is the most like regular milk to me. It's really white and acts the most like regular milk. This should just be the default milk they make, to be honest. It's somewhat hard to find, unfortunately, but they have a map at their site that can help.
I don't know what is available where you're living. I buy the Vemondo No Milk from my local Lidl. The name comes from the fact that we cannot legally call those milk alternatives "milk", so a lot of brands now go with "no milk" or "not milk" instead of "oat drink". lol
They have a Barista oat milk too but I found that one to be not that great, so I can at least encourage you to try different companies & product lines even within the same company.
The main reason to drink milk is not taste. It's the perfect mix of macros for growing kids. Plant based drinks cannot come close to real milk for nutrition.
Only if your tastebuds have failed completely. You probably smoke or have killed your sense of taste by other means if you believe that.
No and no. But your ad hominem really opened my eyes to how wrong i was.
I actually agree with Treczoks about them not tasting remotely the same.
My wife gets the extra creamy oat milk. I can easily tell it's not regular milk, and it's just not for me. I honestly tried to like it.
It's a matter of finding the right one, as I've already explained in my other comment. Either way, not a reason to get personal.
I didn't get personal. Sorry if you took it personally.
I'm talking about the guy that I reported which I would've guessed is how you got to this comment.
Ah yeah. Please explain how that is a personal attack. They surmised that something must be affecting your taste buds if you find that the two drinks taste the same. That would be an accurate summation if they feel the two taste very dissimilar.
You probably have brain damage if you believe that this was merely a summary.
Does it start to make sense? My taste buds are fine. I just aren't some close minded dumbo who has to lash out at everyone because they've actually sampled various products before forming their opinion.
Need any more help in where we're getting at here? I don't know if I can make it any more obvious.
Yo these people both disagree and downvoted you... They are crazy if they think plant juices taste anything close to milk without having defective taste buds.
I have yet to find a milk substitute that pours the same way, specifically over cereal, but even into a glass. Dairy milk holds itself together fairly well, but non-dairy milk tends to splatter all over the place.
It's a minor inconvenience that in no way counters said downsides of dairy milk, but it's a frequent reminder that it's not the same.
Real milk contains emulsified lipids. It's the reason for its unbeatable texture.
Shake a jug of oak milk and nothing changes. Shake a jug of whole dairy milk and eventually you'll have butter.
Pour a tablespoon of vinegar into oat milk and it tastes bad. Pour a tablespoon of vinegar into whole dairy milk and you'll be straining ricotta cheese out of it in no time.
Dairy is superior. There's some strong competition out there, but all the plant milks just wish they were dairy.
Most oat milks now include emulsified lipids for this reason. Oatly foams up to a head better than whole milk. You can't make butter out of it, but I doubt you're making butter from your milk at home anyway.
Smoking crack kills taste buds.
Crackheads would know.
It was also drank for thousands and thousands of years, not the most dangerous thing around.
But we don’t have to take those minor risks in this day and age.
For thousands of years we shit and drank from the same rivers. That wasn't the most dangerous thing around either, but I'm kinda glad we stopped that too.
“Minor risks” being whole families dying or key family members getting poisoned as we transitioned to a society where most folks don’t own their own cow/source of milk.
It’s dangerous to assume all those years of use were a utopia. We used leaded gas for how long and are only just now getting to understand the ramifications?
By your mindset poisoning a future generation with lead is a “minor risk” we dealt with back then…
Uhhhh what? Milk was rearly drank and was processed into other things. That processing made it safer to eat. Also, massive industrial farming ensures one sick cow leads to hundreds of other sick cows. So now one gallon of milk is a mix from hundreds of cows and could come from hundreds of miles away.
26000L is transported at time so thousands.
Medieval logic applied to modern life
It isn't even realistic medieval logic. They drank beer back then because the low alcohol content would kill some of the nasty shit making it safer than water or milk. I imagine if an adult asked for some milk back then, they'd be asked to see the baby.
The average life expectancy for a human was also less than 30 for thousands and thousands of years.
Not it wasn’t.
The average life expectancy wasn’t all to different from today, infant mortality was crazy high though. But if you survived childhood you were pretty set.
Yes it was. We can argue about why it was which is what you're doing, but it was less than 30. There was a spike in deaths before 30 and after 55. Even still 55 is a much lower number than 80.
The exact cause of the statistic isn't really the point though, the point is that just because humanity did something for thousands of years does not mean it was ok. Being a human was pretty damn awful for a very long time for a number of reasons including disease which is the point of this thread, that raw milk carries disease.
Next you're going to tell me to stop drinking raw rat milk?
If they had fed the mice ivermectin and turmeric first, and rubbed some urine in their eyes, they would have been immune, probably.
Does the "I only drink raw milk" crowd skew more in one direction politically?
I think you get a split of hard right conspiracy theorists and hard left granola crunchers.
pretty sure its like a 90:10 split there
And neither side would really be a loss.
I'm not a huge fan of milk, but if the FDA says that there's a potential to get H5N1 from drinking it straight from the cow, they don't have to tell me twice. Incidentally, I caught H1N1 on the Tokyo subway a few years back. It gave me a really bad fever for a couple of days. Would not recommend.
Poor mice :(
Jesus......
"Not to be outdone by China some sections of the USA populace tried to start their own pandemic in 2024 by drinking raw milk from H5N1 infected cows"
Everytime I see "riddled" and "virus" together I cannot help but think of that Ricky Gervais/Liam Neeson sketch... "riddled with AIDS"
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