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Steam is now refunding Ghost of Tsushima for people in affected countries. (lemmy.ca)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works to c/games@sh.itjust.works

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Here's the tweet, https://nitter.poast.org/SteamDB/status/1788981898108182681

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[+] Mikufan@ani.social 112 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

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[-] ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Go on?

I attempted to sell you a car in the UK. I realize I'm unable to and issue a refund.

Fraud exists where?

[-] then_three_more@lemmy.world 104 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I entered into an agreement with a car manufacturer to be able to sell their cars in the UK. After I had people place orders (and pay) for a bunch of them the manufacturer decided that they were no longer supplying cars to the UK. Forcing me to issue my customers with refunds.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 54 points 5 months ago

Fraud exists because you were driving the car for a while with your normal drivers license and everything was perfectly fine, but now (for example) Elon says you have to get a specialized additional Tesla certification license from Tesla, but only offers it to countries whose names start with vowels because he was on a ketamine bender one night.

It’s a retroactive, unilateral change to a contract, which is generally considered legally questionable at the very least. And - you guessed it - possibly fraud.

[-] Link@rentadrunk.org 4 points 5 months ago

Correct me if I’m wrong but the game isn’t out yet on PC so no one has been playing (driving) the game.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 18 points 5 months ago

You’re being pedantic and you know it.

[-] Link@rentadrunk.org 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

There is a big difference between cancelling an order and taking away a product that you have been using.

I don’t agree with Sony’s actions as everyone should be able to buy the game but this is Sony cancelling an order as the game isn’t even out yet on PC.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 months ago

It’s now a pattern and practice, though. HD2 could have been a fluke. But this now indicates that they’re probably going to do something similar with all of their current-gen games. THAT is the point people are becoming furious with.

[-] Link@rentadrunk.org 3 points 5 months ago

That was obvious though. There was articles last week saying that Ghost of Tsushima wouldn’t remove the PSN requirement. It is also listed above the buy button (although that could be recent).

It was pretty clear from their response to HD2 that they would try again. Sure they shouldn’t have been selling preorders in countries that don’t have PSN access but it isn’t really surprising that they are enforcing it here.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

I don’t understand why you’re shilling for Sony as if this was a reasonable or defensible practice.

[-] Link@rentadrunk.org 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I’m not but what’s funny is that EA, Ubisoft and Rockstar require an account to play their single player games and even their awful launchers which Sony isn’t doing and no one cares. Suddenly Sony does the same thing and everyone is furious about it.

Maybe it’s time for everyone to start review bombing these publishers too.

[-] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

More like I pay you for water in my house and midway in you decided to add berry flavor.

Great, now my spaghetti taste like berry, and I didn't agree to that.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago

Please not. I don't want Sony to retreat entirely from the pc market (and they most likely will do it if they are not on Steam anymore).

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 100 points 5 months ago

So what Sony is saying is that I should just pirate the game since there is no legal way to buy it?

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 43 points 5 months ago

Noooo that would be stealing food right out of the developers' mouths /s

[-] rar@discuss.online 10 points 5 months ago

Think of the poor corporations, man! Have you no soul?

[-] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 60 points 5 months ago

Stolen fron c/source_memes

[-] tb_@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

What is this business strategy called?

Not being publicly/private equity owned

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

What a complete clusterfuck.

[-] pewgar_seemsimandroid 3 points 5 months ago

DO I SEE THE FLAG OF ESTONIA?

[-] wildcardology@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Steam should have done that with hell divers 2 f om day 1.

[-] tb_@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

It hadn't been made a clear requirement at that stage

[-] jose1324@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

It was. It was even in the description already

[-] tb_@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Evidently it was not clear enough.

Or Valve didn't check every last little detail and expected the publisher to take care of it, until it became a big controversy.

-- assuming it is, in fact, Valve who is behind this change and not Sony themselves.

[-] jose1324@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

You answered it yourself. Valve did not adequately check

[-] tb_@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

That would require Valve to be the reason behind this change, and reading every description for every game is something I doubt they do.

Clearly this is the responsibility of the publisher.

[-] Bruhh@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I thought you only needed a PSN account for the multiplayer portion of the game?

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yes, which is why Steam is issuing refunds

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago

As somebody who played GoT a while back, it has a multiplayer mode?

[-] Kelly@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

The SP launched in July 2020 with the MP mode arriving in October that year.

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