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Steam is like the only company that I actually somewhat trust
How is GOG?
Better than Steam I'd argue. Unlike Steam, games you buy on GOG are yours to keep forever. No DRM like steam that ~~forces you to log on after a few days offline~~. You also get better version control.
Edit: the offline limit was a bug. Offline restrictions would be dependent on the DRM solution for each individual game.
There are DRM free games on steam. If you can launch the game directly from the exe while steam is off, then the game is DRM free.
I'm aware, however it's not as transparent and Steam does not provide the same guarantees that GOG do.
I don't want to have to open the game page to figure that out. Also if there was a filter I could find and choose not to see DRM games at all, that would be very cool.
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I liked it until CD Project Red showed they care about the shareholders more than the users with Cyberpunk. It's clear that GOG will flip to be anti-consumer as soon as the shareholders change the company leadership. Enshittification comes for all companies because business majors don't understand people.
Steam is private and Gaben is benevolent so that worry is distant. I also have no illusions that should Steam ever go public or change hands then the inevitable end of good, customer needs focused storefronts. But for now, Gave has proven he knows how to make a place consumers like myself want to use.
Gave Newell is 60+ years old and haven't exactly taken the most care for his own health. We don't know what will happen once he is gone.
With GOG there is nothing a change of leadership can do to your existing game library.
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Also, CD Project had one of the worst stores and biased "media" in Poland. They region locked my games and told me "no one from abroad buys games :)" when I wrote to them that I can no longer Access my account or games.
GoG might be good now, but that still hurts me when I was a teenager and moved abroad. It was the only thing I had and they took it away from me. Fuck their DRM of old. Funny how they had the worst drm known to mankind and now have drm free store...
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For now. They still cave to Nintendo's pressure
Yeah that whole Dolphin thing was weird. Seemed like valve just didn't want to deal with the legal headaches of fighting Nintendo in court over an application that didn't really need to be on the steam store in the first place.
Can't say I blame them really.
Personal opinion time: I don't think emulators belong on a commercial store anyway. Keep them on their own websites or Github. Putting them on a store like steam is just asking for trouble.
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Steam has got to be considering blacklisting them as a publisher over this. This is so, so dumb.
I'm afraid they would just make yet another barely functioning launcher/storefront
We need to blacklist anti-libre software. They do this because we let them.
I wasnt considering buying any more snoy games after this whole debacle, and I certainly won't if they make their own launcher. But unfortunately the average gamer just doesn't care :(
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Why would they? They still get a %30 cut of those $70 games. Blacklisting them would just be giving GoG and Epic a leg up in being the only stores you can play Sony blockbusters.
Just a reminder that the steam Refund policy in America is illegal everywhere else in the world. They aren't this great company that's consumer first. They are trying to make as much money as possible and have Allowed the likes of 2k games and EA to be as scummy as possible on their platform.
I'm genuinely very confused - why is the steam refund policy illegal everywhere except America?
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Don’t give your competitors a win
It’s the same reason sports leagues don’t punish good players
I'm not in an affected country, nor did I plan to play multiplayer, but I still removed it from my wishlist and decided to boycott all titles requiring a PSN account. If you want to have some option but annoying account service, fine. I can survive clicking the X on that. But if they push this hard then we know they'll push this onto all games next.
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I hope they bill Sony ten times of what they are losing out on now. They need to set a precedent that no other publisher will want to repeat what Sony did.
Yeah, they’ve got to come up with some publisher-aimed punitive actions, because this is frankly indefensible.
Charge 30% of sales and 100% of refunds.
Sony got the “ you should be grateful it isn’t a play station exclusive”
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Companies whinge about piracy yet they incentivise it with their shitty practices
Dang, why do they love to ruin the good will they collected.
People are paying a monthly fee for multiplayer on PlayStation. I assume that is Sony's goal for their PC ports.
That, MAUs to brag about to investors, or data harvesting through linked accounts. Or all three.
Maybe it gives them a sense of pride and accomplishment
Sony could resolve this by allowing any country to register an account, but they don't lol
Or by making the PSN account an optional feature, the way these shitty integrations almost always were.
The better solution is to not force a third-party tie-in that doesn't really do anything
There are often legal issues to be resolved for each individual country. It's possible, but expensive. Ultimately, linking accounts at all is an unnecessary requirement that exists for Sony's benefit, not yours.
Good guy Steam.
Good guy Steam ensuring that people with peg legs, hook hands, and eyepatches get that 100% disability discount
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i swear to fucking god if they do this with horizon
Sony: You people don't have normal passports?
The single player game??
There's a multiplayer mode. I believe, although I do not know, that it was announced that there would be no PSN requirement for single player mode.
I have no fucking clue what the play is here. Why the ban instead of a huge flashing disclaimer on the store page and when you first open the game saying "You have to use our shitty services if you want multiplayer"? That would solve a lot of issues and they wouldn't need to ban it anywhere.
That was indeed the announcement; PSN required for multiplayer but not singleplayer.
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Maybe this is a hot take, but… I kinda understand not selling a product in a country where nobody in your org knows the laws or speaks the language.
3-person indie teams self-publishing can skate past, cuz they’ve got nothing to lose and can’t spend time triaging crashes due to unicode chars and weird keyboard layouts even if they wanted to. Big companies have to decide what’s worth the risk and the potential demands on their time.
Sucks, but it is what it is.
Except they've been selling in some of those countries for years? GoW, days gone, returnal, horizon series and Spiderman series are all available and some have been for years. It's not about selling games in those countries, it's about wanting to force PSN on the players. Can't force PSN to people in countries where it's not available so they're not going to sell there.
I would not be surprised to hear that this was a disconnect inside the org.
One place I worked had both physical and digital products. We initially listed the digital stuff anywhere and everywhere. It stayed that way for years and years. It was only because of an incidental meeting about localization that folks from legal and customer support went “Wait, you what? You can’t do that. Can we stop that, like today?”
They assumed we were just gonna do the same markets that the physical products do. We assumed there was no reason to limit it.
I guess a good question is: Does Sony sell Horizon for PS5 in any of the countries they don’t sell it for PC?
I can verify that retailers are selling the console and games, including forbidden west and ghost of Tsushima.
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