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[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

It's a little complicated. The Italian boxer who faced Imane in the last match said she "had never been punched that hard before" and had to resign in the first minute.

There's no proof of an Y chromosome, the test Imane failed was just for testosterone (which might be natural). I'm not a doctor, but couldn't that just be from doping or something? She's from Algeria, which has only won like 17 Olympic medals total, which could encourage cheating. It would explain her punches being stronger.

[-] rainynight65@feddit.org 25 points 3 months ago

Oh fuck off. For one, it's not even clear whether higher testosterone levels really give an athlete that much of an edge - many high level male athletes have comparatively low testosterone levels. Secondly, the forms of doping that involve testosterone are not manifesting themselves purely in higher testosterone levels - there are other tests for that. If there was any suspicion that this athlete was doping, they'd run the gamut on her - note how many athletes were already suspended this year, and they're not from comparatively poor countries like Algeria.

If a male boxer beats an opponent to a pulp, then we collectively shrug and move on. Oh well, he was just better. Poor matchmaking. But when it involves women, suddenly there must be something wrong with the athlete who, applying Occam's Razor, simply was stronger.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

I don't know why you're being mean. I'm not misgendering anyone. How many people have had to surrender within a minute (not a knockout or pin)?

[-] tacticalsugar 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They're being "mean" because you're jumping to assumptions that a brown woman is cheating because she was very good at a sport, and all your comments are laced with transphobic undertones. There is zero evidence to suggest Imane Khelif cheated, but you keep acting like there is.

How many people have had to surrender within a minute (not a knockout or pin)?

A lot, actually. It's a violent sport, it happens all the time. Ronda Rousey famously had a match called in under a minute by a ref because she was so seriously outmatched, it doesn't mean her opponent was cheating or trans.

[-] rainynight65@feddit.org 3 points 3 months ago

You're implicitly accusing an athlete you don't even know of cheating and doping, insinuating that it's because she is from a country that hasn't won many gold medals - but I'm being mean for telling you to fuck off?

Would you like me to repeat my words, or would that be too 'mean'?

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

she "had never been punched that hard before"

Didn't at least one person say the same thing about Mike Tyson?

Being better than everyone else might mean cheating, but it also might mean they are just better. No way for us plebs on the ground to know. It sounds like the IBC has not fostered enough trust to be taken at their word.

That being the case, it seems reasonable to take Imane's word for it until the matter can be settled by a trustworthy body.

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