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[-] Water@real.lemmy.fan 3 points 11 months ago

Give me some time and I'll melt your heart.

Jimsile

[-] Water@real.lemmy.fan 3 points 11 months ago

Plus yeah, sure, Kushner & Trump will enrich themselves immensely through those offices... and you rightly criticize them for it... But this is par for the course of politics. I concede this.

I am saying Trump is the better candidate in terms of trying to derail devastatingly stupid & evil American foreign policy because, for reasons separate than mine & yours, is more inclined to isolationism.

He allows for something like a multipolar world through isolationism, which is a step in the right direction of decentralization.

[-] Water@real.lemmy.fan 2 points 11 months ago

I already conceded the Israel point - he would be identical or potentially worse than Biden.

I think Zelenskyy agreed to break the Minsk II protocols and was, along with his cabinet and the Ukrainian deep state, preparing a long time for the fight with Russia, which is why no meaningful effort was made to avoid the war.

Maybe that timeline is off, as I've heard others say that the key decision was made in Feb/March of 2022 when it was then decided to not sue for peace early under the belief that he'd receive adequate American support that would defeat the Russians but that, of course, has proven to be a total joke: over a 100 billion dollars in aid has not been able to shift the course of the battle at all, and it seems obvious that other than sending actual NATO units and fighting WWIII, which could absolutely go nuclear, Ukraine was doomed...

Biden was fabulously stupid or maybe even evil, or a little of each, in this insane decision...

It's amazing to me that you are talkign about this like one of the bad things Trump would have done is potentially not give Zelenskyy false hope that he could win the war and retake Crimea...

The greatst support the Ukrainians could have had would've been not getting encouraged to stand their ground so as to avoid what is now over half a million dead young men all to preserve the subordinance of two provinces that were absolutely loyal to the formerly ousted Yanukovych.

[-] Water@real.lemmy.fan 3 points 11 months ago

Honestly, I'm here to debate faux progressives that think they can support the oligarch's foreign policy because "ackshually, this all benefits us... Just like the erosion of civil liberties when it's to oppose Drrrroomppfff..."

Mike

[-] Water@real.lemmy.fan 2 points 11 months ago

This is not a good assessment of the situation at all...

If American power was truly benign, it would be interested in maintaining Ukrainian neutrality as much as possible to prevent the disaster we have just seen, and simply allow the processes of technology and modernization to erode totalitarian institutions in Russia and, similarly, fought corruption in Ukraine... It would not weaponize the most backwards & corrupt country in Europe through re-energizing the Maidan, throwing a coup using literal Nazi militiamen, and put it on a crash course with Russia, causing it to lose a war abysmally that could have been settled by insisting on some sort of elections in Luhansk/Donetsk with international observers...

Polling shows that it could've likely resulted in just some autonomous region that would still be within Ukraine...

But look at we got: at least half a million dead Ukrainians and now it has been all but guaranteed that more than Luhansk & Donetsk will be ceded to Russia.

You sound like a progressive that would be arguing that the US needed to go into Vietnam to offset Russian & Chinese expansion in southeast Asia, and that the 2 million Vietnamese dead and tens of thousands of working class Americans dying are just these necessary side effects of us being the good guyz.

[-] Water@real.lemmy.fan 4 points 11 months ago

Anything which actively seeks to control others through coercion or social engineering is fascist, IMO, which makes Trump non-unique. One of the greatest manifestations of Democrat fascism is what we saw over the last half-decade with their attempts to create a false narrative around Trump, and to exercise all power available to obscure their own guilt of corruption & collusion by not investigating Hunter Biden and giving sweetheart deals... Moreover, what was the whole J6 debacle but the establishment reasserting dominance by throwing the book at middle aged peasants who dared smack cops on a police line and occupy a Federal space for a couple hours...? That's its own fascism.

Tell me how this "vote blue" thing is working out for Palestinians, and also for Ukrainians.

[-] Water@real.lemmy.fan 7 points 11 months ago

No, you shouldn't vote Democrat - both parties tend to have unimaginably negative foreign policy that perpetuates the American empire across the globe. This is the greatest source of evil in the world - not regressive immigration policy.

This is even why you should consider voting for Trump, regardless of what you think about him: he actually seems to endorse isolationism to some degree. I think they are probably the same concerning Israel, but it is not illogical to say that Trump would've done something else concerning the Ukraine, or that he would have be engaging with China very differently.

[-] Water@real.lemmy.fan 9 points 11 months ago

... To be completely completely fair, the Greeks with power treated a substantial amount of their population as machines, forcing them to perform labor and submit themselves sexually to them, and presided over a system that might have actually viewed the eventual goal of society to be elevating the people of my City to not lives of indolent leisure & carnal pleasure through subjugating countless others...

[-] Water@real.lemmy.fan 22 points 11 months ago

Some do it to potentially document accidents - I know some racial minorities in my country that say they are accused of child abuse and investigated at the drop of the hat if they bring their kid to the doctor and they have any kind of bruise. I heard of a Muslim woman who lost custody of her kid for 48 hours until she was able to produce CCTV footage of her child breaking his arm in a playground accident, and not due to some act of child abuse.

So,, having a cam that catches your kid experiencing an innocuous fall wherever it may be in the house is a good security measure, particularly if the justice system comes at you preloaded with bias.

[-] Water@real.lemmy.fan 2 points 11 months ago

I appreciate people posting content which disproves the idea that the GOP is monolithic.

[-] Water@real.lemmy.fan 5 points 11 months ago

This is exactly right - of course, there may be some gerrymandering forced in, but often times a consensus is reached by sitting legislators locally to gerrymander local districts because it can ensure the political longevity of both the left/right candidates who do it.

Amazing to me that we would have "progressives" downvoting this comment - as if there's real faith that the Democrat party has their best interests at heart, lol.

[-] Water@real.lemmy.fan 5 points 11 months ago

My first thought was that this was very un-Libertarian of Milei, and then I got my answer:

José Luis Espert, a legislator in Bullrich’s Together for Change alliance, which is in coalition with Milei’s Liberty Advances party, replied with a three-word phrase: “Prison or bullet.”

Milei did not even say these lines.

It seems to be mostly about cracking down on disruptive protests that block traffic, etc.

Some of this just isn't that bad:

It also limits the participation of teenagers in social protests, ruling that parents of youngsters who should have been at school instead of protesting will be sanctioned.

Fair & good.

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