Every Democrat I know irl is a kind, considerate person with empathetic views.
So it's amazing to me that the party seems to go out of its way to find the most horrific ghouls and status quo warriors to set forth in a federal election, especially really fucking important elections
The DNC doesn't give a fuck about the Democratic voters as long as they keep voting for their selected candidates
Even if we don't they pick their candidate anyway.
they made it clear what they think of us when clinton elevated trump in 2016
Because the parties don't represent the people. The parties represent the interests of those with most influence in the party. In the modern system it is those who make the most impactfull and sustained donation efforts. The rest is just marketing used to secure enough votes in the election show according to arbitrary rules they set and change as they see fit.
So it’s amazing to me that the party seems to go out of its way to find the most horrific ghouls and status quo warriors to set forth in a federal election, especially really fucking important elections
I think its useful to distinguish between Democrats and democrats. I try to use Democrats for party officials, elected officials, talking heads within the party etc. I try to use democrats for democratic voters.
Democrats do not have the priorities of their voters in mind, and have, since the 90's, wished that they actually had republicans for voters. Democrats don't want to be managing a leftwing party (the votership they largely have), they want to be managing a rightwing party. The Democratic party reconfigured its self to be diet Republican after Carter and have been failing forwards ever since.
I lived through all of that and you put it just right: They kept failing forward. If they weren't the only alternative to the Republicans the party would have died after 1984.
It's probably obvious we need more choices but how?
Primaries. The people have to show up and actually vote for what they want into the primary (rather than trying to vote according to political strategies). With enough sustained effort and time a coalition of like-minded representatives could be built up to slowly change the system to a more representational one.
I've been doing this for 24 years and have the "Kucinich for President" bumper sticker to prove it.
When should I expect it to start working?
I suspect the DNC is gonna try another Bill Clinton style southern strategy and appeal to disenfranchised conservatives by shifting further to the right. And current democrat voters will shift to the right with them, defending their right wing actions tooth and nail.
Yeah, it seems with every candidate, we veer further to the right
Feelings aside, Biden is objectively one of the most, if not the most, progressive President we've had in modern history.
[Bernie] Sanders said that some of the early goals that the Biden administration and a Democratic Congress were able to accomplish in the first two years of Biden’s presidency were progressive victories, including the $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan.
“I think the American Rescue Plan that we passed early in his agenda, in the midst of the terrible pandemic, the economic collapse, was, in fact, one of the most significant pieces of legislation for the working class in this country, in the modern history of America,” Sanders said.
This is why their only political message is “vote for us or you’ll be sorry.”
"A vote for our candidate is slightly better than chopping off your nuts with a rusty cleaver and pouring salt on the gaping wound. Vote Blue!"
Yeah, but the other guy is actively campaigning on chopping your balls off for laughs and keeps showing up to rallies with a cleaver and a salt shaker...so y'know...you pick your fucking battles.
That's a lot of words just to say you've got nothing except "the alternative is worse"
That's pretty bad
"Genocide Joe" is a little crass, but he absolutely deserves to be taken to task for his blind support of the IDF/IOF. That's more important to me as a voter than hearing circle jerk promises about known positions. We know he's pro abortion rights, he's shown that. Now it's time to address the elephant in the room.
I prefer The Butcher of Palestine
If you don't like it, vote in the primary!
(Unless you live in NH, then you don't get a primary. Also the DNC reserves all rights to ignore any primary election)
Either we get rid of the two party system, or it's gonna be the death of democracy.
There can't just be two options picked by private organizations... That's just the illusion of choice when billionaires and corporations donate to both parties.
Vote in all primaries. Vote in state and local. Vote on your local dog-catcher.
The President isn't the only office that matters, and really it doesn't even make up a majority of the importance. It's just easier to get people to focus on it, and ignore all the other just as important elections.
I get what you're saying, and I'm very involved locally, have even considered running myself, but then what? We've still got immigrants and refugees in concentration camps, still can't get anyone, especially women or trans youth, access to healthcare, can't redistribute wealth, can't give land back to the tribes. I still feel powerless. Now what? Just be content with that?
So it’s amazing to me that the party seems to go out of its way to find the most horrific ghouls and status quo warriors to set forth in a federal election, especially really fucking important elections
Can you elaborate on what you mean that "the party seems to go out of its way to find the most horrific ghouls and status quo warriors to set forth in a federal election"? Are you unaware of the fact that Biden is the incumbent President?
He was nominated by a wide margin against a dozen other candidates (including over my preferred candidate), and elected with solid EC majority and a record number of individual votes.
To suggest that he was somehow appointed by the party establishment, when he's simply running for reelection like almost every incumbent President in American history has done after their first term seems like a very disingenuous statement. It's interesting that nobody leveled that argument against Trump when he ran for reelection in 2020, not to mention every other time it's happened, considering it's been the norm for decades.
We're held hostage by one party and get literal death threats from the other. It sucks, man.
I know plenty of Dems who voted trump because abortion. I think a lot is the demographics’ religion. I’ve heard too many say they will vote for trump because at least he gave them $1200. And a friend told me in conversation he visited a (all black) church where the pastor said he doesn’t care if trump is elected, because “God has a plan.”
Biden leaves much to be desired, and waited until election year to mention price-gouging, even try to contend with border red states and abortion. Facts are, both establishment parties are on the same Team Gazillionaire, which isn’t us, and they don’t want it to ever be us. It’s time we wake up that one party is just more sneaky about it, and they’re really not that sneaky. And the EC is still in place.
Biden leaves much to be desired, and waited until election year to mention price-gouging, even try to contend with border red states and abortion. Facts are, both establishment parties are on the same Team Gazillionaire, which isn’t us, and they don’t want it to ever be us. It’s time we wake up that one party is just more sneaky about it, and they’re really not that sneaky. And the EC is still in place.
You can't convince me that a native English-speaker wrote this.
Is there some reason you think people who aren’t native English speakers shouldn’t be involved in American politics? 🤨
No. I do expect coherent and factual arguments from those who do, however. I've had my fill of word salad for 2024 already. Am I asking too much?
Is that why you didn’t mention any of that in your comment and instead focused on whether or not they spoke English as a first language?
Yeah, and it feels that way all over the world.
For example, the recent election in Argentina was between a Libertarian nutjob and a corrupt center-left party. Unfortunately the corrupt center-left party lost, and now the maniac is wrecking their economy.
Then you've got the Labor party in Britain, who despite all of Brexit couldn't manage to form a government.
It's like the entire world is trapped between the options of idiotic populism and neoliberalism.
Things would improve if we ate the rich.
Saying that Milei is wrecking the economy is like saying a bulldozer is wrecking a house when it already got hit by a JDAM
Abortion rights and a free Palestine!
Then the audience — made up of many young people & women — immediately started chanting things like "Four more years" & "Let's go Joe." Be careful of these stories.
Well, obviously. The audience was there to see Biden because they presumably like him. You think the protestors were going to suddenly win over his strongest supporters after yelling for accountability from their hero? Biden, the audience, and the press covering the event weren't getting what they wanted to hear, but they needed to hear it.
It was a pro-abortion rally. Probably not the best moment for a pro-Palestine protest.
Why?
Because women having their rights taken away deserves attention too. They interrupted this rally to target Biden, when there's plenty of other places for them to do that.
Because there's probably a good amount of overlap between people who are pro-abortion rights and those who are sympathetic to Palestinian rights. Abortion rights are also an important and immediately critical issue domestically, so interrupting a rally to support those who need access to abortion with a pro-Palestine protest is just going to piss off people at the rally who are already on the side of the protest. It'd be like if a group of pro-choice advocates started a protest at a pro-Palestine rally, it's just bad form when the group they're disrupting probably agrees with them.
I get the protest was targeted at Biden and Harris, but even still, it's a bad idea to protest them at an event that is probably for an issue the protestors also care about. It just signals that there's no reaching the protestors and they're going to be unreasonable, even if Biden comes around to their side and stops shipping arms to Israel.
imagine protesting a really for reproductive freedom given by a guy who isn't even prime minster of israel.
it increasingly feels like so called palestinian protesters are just russian psy ops
I hate it when people play dumb like this. Biden can tell Israel to stop now and they'd have no choice except to stop.
Biden has done that and Netanyahu said no
Did holding back aid, or even attaching conditions to its use, come up anywhere in that conversation?
foreign aid is approved by congress; you're suggesting that biden do what trump was impeached for?
They have been bypassing Congress to get "emergency weapon sales" to Israel. So yeah Biden could just stop doing that at a minimum.
Biden has bypassed congress to provide aid to Israel.
You can only play dumb and act like Biden has no agency for so long before people realize you all are full of shit. Every time Democrats recycle this lie more and more people are able to see it for what it is.
The democrats have been playing this "there's nothing we can do" game with leftists for years and its going to bite them in the ass at some point.
Biden does not deserve peace, and he should be held accountable for his role in genocide. Responding to anti-genocide protesters with 4 more years is some cultist ass shit. Literal human lapdogs.
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