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[-] arymandias@feddit.de 152 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Gates is just as evil as Musk, he is just better at it. Gates played a pivotal role in making sure the vaccine’s stayed under patent. Even when American farma didn’t have the capacity to produce enough and Indian factories had over capacity. The irony is that he did this using his position in the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation, that tells you all you need to know about billionaire philanthropy.

[edit] source: https://www.wired.com/story/opinion-the-world-loses-under-bill-gates-vaccine-colonialism/

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 84 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Idk who downvoted you, I guess people who think the problem with Musk is that he's cringy or like a cartoon supervillain. No, all billionaires are evil. If you think Gates is a good guy that's because you don't understand what it takes to be a billionaire, what he does with his "charity", or the history of how he's run his business or destroyed antitrust purely because he was embarrassed at how bad he looked under cross examination. He has the charity specifically to launder his image, and as a result he's found ways to be evil using it as cover that he wouldn't have found back in his embrace, extend and extinguish days.

EDIT: Also behind the bastards did episodes on both these absolute jackoffs:

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-the-ballad-of-bill-83715310/

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-i-do-not-like-63419860/

You don't get featured on that show unless you properly suck.

[-] WorkIsSlow@lemmy.world 53 points 11 months ago

No clue why you're being down voted. Youre right.

Gates chose to patent life saving medicine during a global pandemic.

The consequences of that decision are essentially withholding lifesaving medicine because it makes him more money.

[-] schema@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I haven't heard of that. Which vaccine did he patent?

The only thing I remember was him speaking out for not lifting ongoing patents on the vaccines, and then reversed course as criticism grew bigger.

[-] uzay@infosec.pub 24 points 11 months ago

Even before any of the vaccines were finished, there were plans to not grant them any patent protection so they can be produced and distributed as widely as possible. Gates and his foundation lobbied hard against that and instead came up with the bullshit plan to have rich countries buy vaccines for poor countries, which helped no one but the insane profits of the pharma companies. In the case of the vaccine developed with public funding by the Oxford University, Gates actively talked them out of releasing it with an open license, so they sold it to AstraZeneca instead.

https://www.wired.com/story/opinion-the-world-loses-under-bill-gates-vaccine-colonialism/

[-] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[-] RocketBoots@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Don't waste your breath. I'm done with this platform. I hoped it would deliver what reddit couldn't, but I was wrong.

I don't think I'll ever find another platform that encouraged such measured responses. Every thing is either team red or team blue. I just hate how much people are willing ignore so their side can win. Maybe that's just all of the internet now. That's fine, it's just that it's no longer for me.

^(Edit: I agree with this person for what it's worth.)

[-] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Don't waste your breath.

I just hate how much people are willing ignore so their side can win.

Sad that your side lacks representation? Or is it a lack of conviction with your own opinions?

Nobody wins a discussion because it's not a competition, and your words aren't going convince anyone who doesn't want to be convinced. There's never been a time when one could seek divine cognition from the mouth breathing troglodytes that make up the bulk of the bell curve.

The problem isn't the people, it's your expectations.

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[-] Jaigoda@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I find it strange that you've said this to one of the only comments that actually provided quotes of multiple articles that weren't just opinion pieces. It's also a bit odd that you're "done with this platform" due to a relatively centrist position that mostly amounts to "it doesn't seem like Bill Gates is James Bond Supervillain level evil."

In fact, generally both the blue and red "teams" (of the US) kinda hate Gates, just for different reasons. Someone coming out, reading the article linked by the comment that they're responding to, and then providing reasonable counter-evidence is actually a bit of a breath of fresh air compared to typical Reddit or Lemmy, or the internet in general for that matter.

And to be clear, I really don't have a stake in the game here. I'm mildly interested to see whether Gates is as bad as others in this thread are saying, but coming into it I didn't really have much of an opinion one way or the about the guy. Now, I'm just curious what has made you feel that the commenter you responded to couldn't deliver what Reddit somehow did or does.

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[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

then reversed course as criticism grew bigger

That's always been his MO. He literally used to be a eugenicist (likely still is privately) until the backlash from that started threatening his career, and all of a sudden he flip flopped and started pretending that eugenics doesn't even exist let alone him being a vocal part of it.

[-] ultranaut@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I've never heard of Gates being a eugenics believer, can you point to some credible evidence for this claim?

[-] gens@programming.dev 22 points 11 months ago

Gates at least does something. Yea all rich people charities are tax evasion schemes, but at least he does something. Musk kills turtles and strokes his rocket to it.

[-] uzay@infosec.pub 24 points 11 months ago

Yes, he's working hard on prioritzing profits over people even harder in the medical industry.

[-] netchami@sh.itjust.works 16 points 11 months ago

The only thing Gates does is use his foundation to avoid taxes. He's not any better than other billionaires. The entirety of billionaire philanthropy is a massive lie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH4uh8cHuto

[-] gens@programming.dev 15 points 11 months ago

No, he does do stuff. I already said about their charities, and you tell me of like i know nothing. I also know about his boat and planes.

I said that he, unlike all the other rich cunts, does something. Do you see the nuance in my words ? Do i need to both italize and bold it for you ?

[-] DeceasedPassenger@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So Mr gates is special because... he's your special favorite guy? Because last time I checked almost all billionaires give to charities and foundations. Something is not anything just because you declare it, no matter how hard you emphasize it. There is absolutely nothing unique or special about his giving versus anyone else's. You're really acting like he's the only rich pedo to ever start a 501c3. Gates shills sure out hard today.

[-] gens@programming.dev 11 points 11 months ago

Again, all rich ppl charities are money laundering. It has to do with how economics (epecially usa taxes) work. And those charities are useless, even more then carbon offsets.

I never said Gates is the greatest angle to ever grace us, all i said is that he is not a completely heartless cunt of a person like Jeff or Elon.

And it's not about giving charities, it's about the initiatives.

Also go fuck yourself. I can talk shit about Gates for hours. I'm just not an extremist to see only black or white. Cunt.

[-] netchami@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Inside any important philanthropy meeting, you witness heads of state meeting with investment managers and corporate leaders. All are searching for answers with their right hand to problems that others in the room have created with their left.

― Peter Buffett, the son of Warren Buffett

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[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Charity just means your special interest gets what would otherwise be tax dollars. There's nothing democratic about charity. It's just churched up oligarchy.

[-] gens@programming.dev 8 points 11 months ago

It's worse then that for the very rich. Their "charities" are made up of their friends and family, and the money eventually circles back to them. It's literally tax evasion.

[-] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Yeah, like being on Epstein's island.

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[-] netchami@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago
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[-] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

Louis Armstrong didn't goto the moon for this :(

[-] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

Lol, well done! I can't tell if you did it on purpose, which makes it funnier for some reasons.

[-] aidan@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

You've just convinced me I have early onset dementia. Knew that wasn't his name but couldn't remember at all what it was before looking it up, and could only thing of Lance Armstrong.

[-] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

second wojack should have been the crying soyjack holding the smirk mask

[-] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

That would imply an unrealistic level of self awareness, imho

[-] Demuniac@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

It's funny how these things go sometimes.

At work we had an anti vaccine person who followed her "let them push your body full of these poisons" by going outside to get a smoke.

They usually don't think things through much.

[-] pm_me_your_thoughts@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

Lmao this post rustled up some hate feathers

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I'm loving the free $5000 they put on my microchip every month tho, ngl.

[-] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

gobbling down billionaire cum much?

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Wasn't gates involved with epstein, or was that fake info?

[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

What does that have to do with the topic? Elon was involved too

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ah, I didnt know

About the topic, nothing directly related, but since I heard about it, i started cringing about the general positive view of Bill

[-] Littleborat@feddit.de 7 points 11 months ago

This is 2018 Elon, he looks much more "off" now.

[-] Floey@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

These men are both enemies of the people, we shouldn't make one look good by comparing them.

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