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[-] Senseless@feddit.de 116 points 11 months ago

You don't eat three meals a day because you have no money.

I don't eat three meals a day because I want to lose weight.

We're not the same.

[-] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 86 points 11 months ago

You don't eat three meals a day because you want to lose weight

I don't eat three meals a day because shit is it already 5 pm? Why did my hunger response not say anything? Time to eat my entire daily caloric allowance in one sitting

We're not the same

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I don't eat three meals a day because I take my work drugs for that sweet temp upgrade from ADHD to AD4K instead.

[-] XTornado@lemmy.ml 11 points 11 months ago

Wait when did the 4K upgrade come up!? I missed it.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 11 months ago

It’s called adderal, but good luck getting a prescription filled. All the tech companies are hoarding it for their H1B guys to code twice as much.

[-] PopShark@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Dexedrine is better anyway but good luck getting it filled anywhere ever

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[-] Lifebandit666@feddit.uk 10 points 11 months ago

I do both, so kinda the same but not quite?

On any given day I can eat 1-4 meals.

It depends if I’m hungry. Mostly it’s 2 meals and I stop when I’m full.

I think it helps that I treat food like fuel rather than something I actively enjoy doing. On the days I’m more active I’m more hungry and so eat more.

There is no point to this comment other than to put out my odd relationship with food I guess.

[-] Senseless@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago

That's okay, we all have our quirks.

When in really into the zone (whatever zone that might be) I tend to not have any appetite and "forget" to eat. But that doesn't happen all this often. Also, I just like good, or basically yummy food. Makes it kind of hard to change your habits and eat junk only about once weekly.

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[-] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 74 points 11 months ago

I haven't eaten three times a day in almost 20 years. Nothing to do with money - I just like black coffee in the morning and nothing else.

[-] Anekdoteles@feddit.de 28 points 11 months ago

Breakfast is against nature and I am ready to die on this hill.

[-] bAZtARd@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

Try telling this to my kids..

[-] Nilsbert_Labskauser@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago

Okay once again very slowly for the people in the back:

"Kids' metabolism != adults' metabolism"

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

You'll gain fifteen pounds a year eating like this.

I'll gain fifteen pounds a year eating like this.

We are not the same.

[-] steb@kbin.social 54 points 11 months ago

The actual statistic of the headline is that people surveyed reported that over the last two years they "sometimes" or "regularly" no longer ate three meals a day because of inflation and the fall in their purchasing power.

[-] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago

Unless those meals are teeny tiny, 3 meals a day reliably means weight gain for me

[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Yep ditto. I have to stick to 2 a day most of the time and do regular cardio. Shit sucks

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[-] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Hopefully it’ll help with the obesity epidemic.

[-] Zrybew@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago

I bet it will make it worst: the cheapest foods are the worst in terms of calories density.

They will get fat but malnourished.

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[-] moitoi@feddit.de 14 points 11 months ago

But, but... Neoliberalism is for your good and anything socialist is bad.

It's time to end neoliberalism.

[-] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If true, which it's basically not, this is dumb distraction and click-bait.

So what is this "third meal" that so many people are supposedly giving up? Kebab? Big Mac and fries? Well surely that's a win for everyone? Duh.

Sorry, but the reality is that poor people are not literally going hungry anywhere in Europe. Anyone who opens their eyes can see that. In almost every country in the world today, i.e. except the very poorest, poor people are fatter than rich people.

Completely inane and irrelevant and insulting to intelligence.

Addendum. To clarify, my point is that the problem with food today is the quality, the calories, the correlation with social inequality. It's not the quantity and it's certainly not the number of meals taken. Idiotic.

[-] Girru00@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

If only there was some way to confirm, short of only reading the headline, if theres more to this.

Oh, apparently theres further text in the article, for example 29% said their financial situation is precarious. 11% say they regularly dont eat enough, so they have enough food for their kids, 24% say theyre very concerned with coping with the increase in food prices. Oh and 12%, within the past 6 months, have skipped meals while hungry.

So the article sources survey data, you're basing your claims on better primary data I take it? Or maybe secondary public health database datasets? Something else?

[-] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I don't get this. My problem is being taken to be a fool.

How do you, personally, square these two observations:

  • There's a worldwide obesity epidemic affecting all but the poorest of countries, and within each society the fattest people tend to be the poorest ones
  • Poor people - in rich Europe - are so poor that they can't eat enough meals

Sorry, but something has to give. Which is it?

Addendum. Downvoting just proves you have no answer to the question.

[-] Girru00@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Just because people can consume pure lard, and gain a tonne of weight, it doesnt mean theyre not malnutritioned. It also doesnt mean they dont experience hunger.

If you take a step back and consider the primary question that needs to be answered is it

a) What weight is a measure of hunger/poverty - people must be over x weight irrespective if health and were good. b) What food availability us a measure of hunger/poverty - people must have reasonable acess to a basic set of nutritional inputs and were good.

You seem to be following a - people are fat, so hunger doesnt exist

When it would be equally truthful, with a different conclusion to say - people are feeling hunger and experiencing malnutrition. When they can eat, what they can afford causes increased body mass without fulfilling their nutritional requirements. They also continue to feel hungry.

Treat food similar to medicine, the good benefit is the target, but there are also side effects. Cheaper food has a worse profile - fewer (not none) benefits, and higher side-effects.

Theres also more complexity to this - poverty isnt just $. Education, transportation, time, exhaustion, health. Many intersections and impacts that paint a persons life.

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[-] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

While I think that you've got a valid broader point about misrepresentation -- my pet peeve is the use of "relative poverty" in poverty infographics, which has got nothing to do with being poor, but rather is a sort of metric of inequality -- I'm not sure that describes what is going on here. They highlight Moldova as having a particularly high rate of going without meals. Moldova is not, by European standards, wealthy, but also has a low obesity rate by European standards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_obesity_rate

You wouldn't expect to see that if the poorer == more obese effect dominated in that case.

[-] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Finally, a decent rebuttal to my argument!

I agree about the conflation of absolute and relative poverty.

[-] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

How fucking dare you. Pick up your pitchfork and put your blindfold back on right this instant.

[-] Oderus@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

and here I am trying to eat 4-5 times a day to get >3000 calories in so I can gain weight.

[-] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Whole milk brother. It's much easier to drink than eat calories

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[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

When I order food they often have a minimum order value in money. It's usually so much, I just can't eat more than one meal. I know in advance, so I skip breakfast and get full at lunch, then skip diner too, because I'm still full.

[-] occhineri@feddit.de 16 points 11 months ago

Just out of interest: have you considered preparing your meals yourself?

[-] Anekdoteles@feddit.de 14 points 11 months ago

This. Skipping a meal to afford food delivery is not a financial problem. It's like saying "I am poor because I can only afford to drive one way with my Lamborghini and have to walk home".

[-] occhineri@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago

I mean, there are good reasons why people would choose to order food rather than cooking it: no time between three jobs, disabilities and so on. My comment wasn't meant as an offense.

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You misunderstood: I'm not doing it to afford food delivery, but because the restaurant I'm ordering at has a minimum order value and I don't want to throw half of it in the trash.

For example: I want pizza and it's 12€, but the place won't deliver for orders less than 20€. So I have to add some idk lasgna or a second pizza. I end up with food for more than 1 meal, so I skip the other meals to be able to eat it while it's fresh. Simetimes I save a bit fir later, but it's nit the same quality.

[-] Anekdoteles@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Sorry, I indeed misunderstood. Looks like, I was not the only one. So, you're not wasting money, neither do you waste food. It seems you're just a camel :)

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