Xbox's new policy — say goodbye to unofficial accessories from November thanks to error '0x82d60002' : games

[-] aluminium@lemmy.world 90 points 10 months ago

No bro, Xbox isn't evil anymore. Phil Spencer is a good guy and Gamepass is the "best deal in gaming"./s

On serious note there is some legit reason to do something like this. Things like the Cronos Max or Rapid fire controllers are a legit problem in multiplayer games because they are hardware cheats essentially.

But they could have created an API that allows games to check if a unoffical device is detected if that is the reason.

[-] AProfessional@lemmy.world 63 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

From the article

The problem seems to revolve around brands that haven't acquired this licensing

It seems to just be rent seeking? Since it’s retroactive there probably isn’t a security change and malicious hardware can spoof being licensed, though this is unclear. So it probably only hurts legitimate small brands.

[-] aluminium@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

Yeah its probably rent seeking, I was just pointing out there are legit reasons to ban certain hardware.

[-] Deestan@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I get your argument, but I'd say it makes room for a legit reason to control and identify hardware, not ban it.

[-] aluminium@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

absolutely, hence why I put forward the idea of an API that would allow games to stop people from joining multiplayer matches or flag their highscores if sketchy hardware is involved! For Single Player games, who cares!

But deep down we all know that this first and formost is a money grabbing scheme from micro$oft

[-] pory@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

So use a tool like this for call of duty multiplayer lobbies, not globally. Who cares if people "cheat" in single player games?

[-] riesendulli@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 10 months ago

Shooters on console. LOL

Play it on PC, has less cheaters.

[-] echo64@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

Play it on PC, has less cheaters.

fun fact, whenever a game has crossplay - and has a big enough player base that i can do this, i will turn it off 100% of the time purely because I have experienced sooo many cheaters from the pc side of the crossplay.

a very common complaint about crossplay over on the consoles side of thing is "let us do just-console crossplay"

it is what it is, but it's also funny to see someone say what you said there. One of the great things about pc gaming is the freedom you have to do what you want, which unfortunately makes it 1000000x easier to cheat.

[-] aluminium@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

I'm on PC but yeah as far as I know Xbox One and Series still have their security fully in tact so there is no way to run cheats on your console.

This is one of the few points you gotta give to consoles even as a PC player!

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

I call bullshit on that.

[-] mikeboltonshair@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

Can’t figure out if you are trolling or if you are just very stupid

[-] XbSuper@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Less cheaters on pc? lol

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[-] echo64@lemmy.world 72 points 10 months ago

I didn't have Controller DRM on my 2023 bingo

[-] ATDA@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

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[-] Wilibus@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I had DRM on my coffee pot on my 2017 bingo card.

[-] Aielman15@lemmy.world 66 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Let's add this to the list of shitty anti-consumer choices that big tech corporations have implemented this year.

IIRC Microsoft still hasn't reverted on their asinine choice of locking their console players into their overpriced branded SSDs.

[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Their SSD prices dropped significantly this past year when they allowed another company to start making them. But it's still nowhere near as cheap as PS5's SSD expansion which isn't proprietary at all.

[-] Why9@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I don't think it's as black and white as that. Not to say that Microsoft isn't dubious at times, but it seems they're trying to weed out dodgy devices here.

Give companies free reign to create third party devices and they'll create things that can be considered borderline cheat-y, or create things that are so bad that they affect people's experience of Xbox consoles.

All this error code seems to be doing is requiring third party hardware to go through proper checks to verify hardware.

[-] Aielman15@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

All this error code seems to be doing is requiring third party hardware to go through proper checks to verify hardware.

Translated: They want third parties to pay for the "Xbox seal of approval".

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[-] dhtseany@lemmy.ml 50 points 10 months ago

All of the selfish things I'm learning from the comments in this thread about what Microsoft has been doing with their console such as banning aftermarket tech like controllers or generic SSDs is why I finally quit buying consoles entirely years ago and why I stopped paying for Xbox live. Enshitification is a real thing, my dudes.

[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 8 points 10 months ago

I‘m very happy with the steam tv link app. It works great and you have a lot more games to choose from afaik.

[-] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

The majority of PCs are Windows, which is only marginally better.

[-] dhtseany@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

Well luckily for me I'm running Arch Linux so no concern there

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago

In ten years, the only place you'll be able to truly own what you buy and play how you want is on Linux from Itch.io. These fools are salting the earth they grow their crops in.

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 27 points 10 months ago

And here I thought there wasn't a way to shoehorn Linux into this thread.

itch.io deserves the shout-out though

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Not much of a shoehorn when we're speaking of the spawn of the eldritch god Microsoft. The article is even about unthinking destruction.

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[+] mammut@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

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[-] Kit 4 points 10 months ago

To play devil's advocate, I suspect that the majority of unauthorized 3rd party devices were designed for cheating versus mobility needs. Microsoft has fantastic accessibility accessories first-party that hopefully will meet the majority of needs.

[-] beyondthegrave@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

A lot of devices are just adapters to allow you to play fighting, racing sim, flight sim, rhythm games with controllers from other platforms because these niche genres are even smaller on Xbox and go completely ignored by large accessories companies.

That's not going to change once these devices are blocked. It's a very heavy handed (and potentially lucrative) approach to stopping FPS cheaters.

They were making strides with the FGC getting SF6 and adding Guilty Gear Strive to Gamepass and then do this. Makes no sense.

[-] antoniodelavega@jlai.lu 18 points 10 months ago

Is there literally anything that is safe from DRMs ?

[-] MangoPenguin 13 points 10 months ago

Linux

[-] antoniodelavega@jlai.lu 4 points 10 months ago

Until hardware manufacturers/websites refuse Linux computers thanks to remote attestation

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Fuck Microsoft. Move away from consoles.

[-] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 13 points 10 months ago

For anyone who wanted to read the article:
https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/xbox/xboxs-new-policy-say-goodbye-to-unofficial-accessories-after-november

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

More Apple by Microsoft.

[-] TryingToEscapeTarkov@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Madcatz "Nooooooooooo!!!!"

[-] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I thought Phil Spencer was a wholesome gamer? /s

[-] lorez@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

I had the double tap issue with the official Xbox series X controller on PC. On Steam, on Game Pass, everywhere. And I was playing Persona 5 Royal at the time so it skipped dialogue. I returned it to Amazon and got a Dualsense. No issue whatsoever. Can't even make a damn controller...

[-] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

“I got one lemon from one brand once and swore off the entire brand”

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[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Nobody going to mention that this is likely to stop people from using devices like xim to spoof a controller while using keyboard and mouse? I know that this will likely be worked around but I’m sure that workaround gives Microsoft legal standing to go after the manufacturer. Still doesn’t make this any less shitty for someone using a third party controller and not cheating with it though.

[-] beyondthegrave@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Great! So I can't use a hitbox on street fighter or my choice of racing/flight sim rig in games that aren't first person shooters because of a problem that affects a genre I'm not even playing.

What a great solution that's not far-reaching, extremely heavy handed, and has a great potential for Microsoft to milk customers and small businesses alike! /s

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