Since then there have been several partial-day strikes, most recently in 2018, with women walking off the job in the early afternoon, symbolizing the time of day when women, on average, stop earning compared to men.
That's pretty clever
Unequal pay sure, but how the hell is a strike supposed to stop violence against women? That's not an economic concept that can be impacted by withholding labor. It's a fine goal I just don't see how a strike helps it get accomplished.
It brings attention to the issue. Not everything is intended to have a direct impact on problems.
I really don't feel like attention/awareness is the problem. People are very aware of various problems plaquing the world... I personally don't need more awareness, what I want to see is actionable items.
People don't create actionable items unless they're confronted with the idea that they need to make them.
Many people, like yourself, are waiting for something "actionable" before they do anything. The problem is, everyone is waiting for someone else to do something and thus doing nothing themselves. That's where visibility comes in. Clearly not enough is being done, so people need to get off their ass and do something, instead of waiting for someone else to do it for them.
Many people, like yourself, are waiting for something “actionable” before they do anything.
What do you mean by that. Firstly, you don't know me at all. Second, do you know what an actionable item is? Literally, what do you want 'people like myself' today, right now to do that is just going to fix everything? I'll stand for 'people like me' and say, we're ready to 'get off our ass and do something', but what EXACTLY is that going to be? If you're going to get on your soap box and tell me and 'people like me' off, have a plan.
Because as far as I see, you're just grand standing.
Yeah awareness is definitely needed for some issues but violence against women doesn't seem like one of those issues. I'm pretty confident everyone is aware of it and no one is a fan except for the people doing it. I don't think those kinds of people will care about a strike. If anything I'm guessing a woman in an abusive relationship is more likely to experience violence by participating in this than not.
I think you might need to read A Modest Proposal.
The thing is, giving women the ability to extricate themselves from bad relationships where they explicitly have to rely on the income of someone else to take care of themselves and their offspring is a big reason why violence against women persists.
When we're talking "violence against women" we don't mean women randomly attacked in the street, more often than not, we mean women attacked by their partners, who are mostly men.
The impact of being able to financially extricate yourself from a violent partner is huge and is driven by economics. It's literally why Lenin considered women an equal part of the Communist struggle. It's why Russia under the USSR initially legalized abortion in 1920. This would unfortunately change when Stalin came to power, but at the outset, it was understood that women having economic independence was a huge part of allowing them to become equals to men in society, and allowing them to escape abusive men.
While A Modest Proposal shouldn't be taken with any seriousness, it's jokey demeanor makes very good points about the same ideas. There are all kinds of things you can do economically to incentivize reduced violence towards women.
The idea that higher pay wouldn't have an impact on reducing violence towards women seems a bit short-sighted.
I appreciate the thoughtful response. That's the way to disagree with someone without being a dick about it. Good comment.
Imagine you're a wealthy CEO who funds politicians. Obviously you're evil and the only thing you care about is money.
Suddenly you start making less money because people are upset about violence against women. The path to you making more money again is for the government to address this issue. So you use your considerable influence to make it happen.
Wealthy people are simple minded and easy to manipulate. Just make it more profitable to do what's right and they will.
Although I like the solidarity. Isn't she the one who can enact policies to combat pay disparity?
I'd imagine not unilaterally; she'd still need parliamentary action.
And for the private sector to do their part.
She's a prime minister, not an empress.
Her first order of business while prime Ministering should have been to make herself an empress. Classic mistake
Rookie mistake
No.
If only the prime minister of Iceland was in some kind of position of authority where she could do something to address gender inequality in Iceland.
did you read the article?
So what happens when the prime minister goes on strike? Who leads the country?
Doesnt answer your question, however I did a tiny bit of googling. The prime minister is appointed by the president under the Constitution of Iceland, Section II Article 17, and chairs the Cabinet of Iceland. So maybe the president will appoint someone else from the cabinet as an acting prime minister?
That sounds like a scab hahahahah
isn't Iceland the most gender equal and progressive country?
And apparently this is why. Good for these women for standing up for what they deserve. I hope others around the world will see this.
It is but gender inequality is still endemic across society. Put this way, I'd rather be a woman in Iceland than say Afghanistan, but I'd still rather be a man in every single country.
This is the third big strike I've seen and been like "wow this wouldn't effect me at all".
Hollywood? I'd rather it go out of business.
American Auto Union? Anyone buying American cars is a dumbass.
And for this one....
Household chores? I do all those myself.
Schools? No kids.
Hospitals? Not sick.
Maybe retail workers and pharmacists. They'd have to strike on a weekend though.
And broadly I'd benefit greatly from half the labor market dropping out. Keep on striking. Never stop.
That's a pretty self-centred take
Unionization leads to better working conditions and pay outside of their own membership in a "rising tides lift all boats" kind of way
other people exist.
That's why I started my comment with "I've"
"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me."
Nobody is "coming" for anyone here.
I'm happy to see Hollywood fail because I don't like Hollywood. It needs to shatter and media needs to be produced by a more diverse set of areas across the country and not be in the hands of Disney and the screen actors/writers guild.
I'm happy to see these strikes from women fail because they're demanding an end to the wage gap (aka, they want to work less and get paid the same) and yet even more draconian "safety" laws.
I wish the auto workers the best, but their cars suck and they should all be out of business.
Imagine being so colossally stupid that you think researchers don't account for 'hours worked' when they investigate stuff like the wage gap...
When they do, along with other controls, the wage gap largely disappears.
Oh, so because of the decisions of a small group of investors, all the workers who work on the factories just to survive are to blame and should be unemployed? And women that want to have EQUAL rights (go look up the definition of the word, if you can't figure out it's meaning) should fail because of your false opinion.
God, I've seen a lot of pathetic people, but you fit in one of the lowest levels I've seen.
because of the decisions of a small group of investors, all the workers who work on the factories just to survive are to blame and should be unemployed
Ideally they'd find jobs at companies that don't make shit cars when people in mass stop buying the American ones.
And women that want to have EQUAL rights
Like I said. They want to work less and be paid the same. They don't want equal rights, they want special privileges.
Happy to be pathetic in your eyes. The alternative is be a thoughtless pushover.
You clearly do not, in fact, understand what the word "equal" means. They want more pay because they're paid less. But I know me explaining to you won't end your self-centered attitude and misogyny.
They want more pay because they're paid less.
Pay isn't just given to you. If you don't work the same hours you shouldn't be paid the same.
If you demand you get paid the same regardless, you're a selfish asshole, not fighting for equality.
I accidentally ended up in the middle of this, and there was genuinely a huge turnout. It was good to see, and quite uplifting.
Good! Now let's extend this movement to other countries as well. I want to see the impact women make in the workforce and what critical parts of the economy will collapse if women collectively decide to stop taking shit.
Naturally, parts of the economy that won't come to a grinding halt need more female representation.
We need equal pay, equal opportunities, equal responsibility and equal representation.
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