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submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

Russia appears to have launched a “renewed offensive” against Ukrainian troops in the eastern part of the country as the war inches closer to entering its second winter, National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby said on Friday.

But Russian troops haven’t made much progress, Kirby said, adding that the new attacks are “not a surprise.”

“The Russian military appears to be using human wave tactics where they throw masses of poorly trained soldiers right into the battlefield without proper equipment, and apparently without proper training and preparation,” he said.

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[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago

Great strategy Vlad, maybe Ukraine will just get tired of killing your meat puppets.

[-] lmaydev@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

The issue is the meat grinder tactic can be very effective if you're willing to use it.

Russia has more resources to burn so it may work out. But based on their previous strategic skill it'll likely just be a huge waste of life.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

Russia has more resources to burn so it may work out.

Does it though? Modern Russia isn't the soviet union anymore. Pulling subsistence farmers out of a town and marching them to the front at little to no cost to the economy doesn't work anymore. Handing someone a rifle and telling them to move up isn't really acomplishing anything anymore, other than losing people and rifles. Lets not forget Russia is not that much larger than Ukraine, they can't sustain every loss.

[-] lmaydev@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

True but they also have a lot more hardware to throw away. So they can burn multiple tanks taking out one of Ukraine's and still come out on top overall.

Plus they've been recruiting prisoners and people from other countries which doesn't hurt them in the same way.

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

You see, Killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them until they reached their limit and shut down.

[-] thatWeirdGuy@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago
[-] wwaxen@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Zapp was right on one thing: people who are "neutral" on this war disgust me.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 27 points 11 months ago

Yeah I remember reading about how they lost like 100 vehicles in one day or something a day or two ago.

[-] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

So standard Russian tactics then.

[-] Daxter101 10 points 11 months ago
[-] Kualk@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Huge Ukrainian losses enabled Russian offensive.

Because Ukraine wasted all of its people in Russian meat grinder, under name of Spring, no it was Summer, no it was Fall counteroffensive, Russia was able to start its offensive knowing well that Ukraine can’t counter it effectively.

Ok, let’s just face it. Promised Ukrainian counteroffensive has failed after 6 months, killed tens of thousands of Ukrainians and accomplished less than Russian Avdiivka attack in last 2 days.

[-] thatWeirdGuy@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

It's been a lot more effective than the 3 day long Special Military Operations that Vlad promised, you Kremlin

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The difference, comrad, is that Ukraine cares about preserving formation, so they don't charge blindly ahead. Russia doesn't give a shit, if they have to refill their "elite" VDV formation three times over with mobiks, they'll gladly do so. Their literal purpose is soak up bullets from Ukrainian strongpoints, so someone else can fire a couple of North Korean artillery shells at it.

Obviously the latter method is great for gaining ground, in the short term. The former method is a lot more useful if you're assuming the war will last longer than 3 days.

Also: Sources please.

[-] Kualk@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

October 14, 2023

Source: https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/19015889/amp

Ukraine called all men and all draftable women to show up at military draft tracking locations.

That’s my loose translation.

Reason: allegedly to improve tracking of people.

My opinion: to replenish losses after disastrous summer counteroffensive.

[-] Kualk@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Time magazine

Ukraine Is in Worse Shape than You Think

https://time.com/6176748/ukraine-war-economy/

I could find non-English reports that personnel in some military units have been changed completely several times in Ukraine.

Some western leaders stated loss numbers far exceeding official Ukrainian losses.

Would you believe any data I quote?

So, there is no point for me to waste my time.

The downvote numbers clearly indicate the desire to hide this information.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The downvotes are probably because you're not smart enough to combine all your links into one post. They're also partly because your links suck.

1: Newsweek is a US conservative magazine. They're famous for not having used factcheckers in the past 30 years, and the US conservative movement is heavily influenced by Russia. I wouldn't believe them if they told me the sky is blue.

2: the link from the Time is a year and a half old, and completely irrelevant to the current situation. It was 1 months into the war, and it was before the Kyiv attack was shattered, for example, or Russia pushed back to the Dnipro.

3: the NYT article basically says "after suffering casualties in one attack, AFU have changed their strategy". After those changes, the advance in the Robotyne and Novosilka areas was made.

None of that is "Ukraine is about to lose the war" material. Nor is Ukraine winning any time soon, that much is true.

[-] Kualk@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Have your facts in check.

New York Times:

After Suffering Heavy Losses, Ukrainians Paused to Rethink Strategy Early in the counteroffensive, Ukraine lost as much as 20 percent of its weapons and armor. The rate dropped as the campaign slowed and commanders shifted tactics.

July 15, 2023

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/15/us/politics/ukraine-leopards-bradleys-counteroffensive.html

[-] Kualk@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago
[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Putin Reveals How Many Russian Troops Have Been Killed in Counteroffensive

Hilariously reliable source you've got there.

[-] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

All one has to do to make a vatnik cry is ask: if the ~12 villages that Ukraine has recaptured during the counter-offensive is a "failure" then how tf do you describe what the fascist ruzzians have done in the past year? The last win for the orcs was bakhmut, which was thanks to wagner, who've been destroyed in exchange. Battle of Kyiv, Kharkiv, Kherson... Ruzzians have done almost nothing except eat shit from the beginning.

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