Climate change is only going to make this event harder and more dangerous in the future. I just hope the death toll stays at 1.
Story time! My friend is a private pilot for an obscenely rich person. He dropped them off wherever the nearest airport is and man in a luxury RV picked them up. He drove them there, set the whole thing up, and left them to have fun. Apparently this is not an abnormal thing they do.
I guess last night they got a hold of the dude, who drove to an area a couple hours walk away, and they hiked to his truck. He went to the RV and they drove the truck 4 hours to Reno, and they're staying at a four seasons or something. My buddy had to cancel his own vacation to go and pick them up this morning so now I'm at a beach watching his kids.
Whatever it was before, burning man is a playground for the 1%. When the shit hits the fan, their money will always get them out of any situation.
Was your buddy obligated to go pick them up, or was the money that good that he couldn't say no?
I hate to sound callous, but I don't feel much sympathy for a rich person who went out to the desert to pretend to be a hippie and didn't check the weather forecast.
I used to run in a party crowd that had a LOT of burning man folks in it. There were a couple of them that had middle class incomes, maybe even leaning upper middle class. Those are usually the ones that had an art car or whatever that they sank some money into, instead of the crap that most upper middle class Americans blow their money on.
But the rest of them? They worked at restaurants, did massage therapy, teachers, etc. normal people with median or lower incomes that would forego other expenses to set aside a little a money for their annual get high in the desert trip.
Yes, there’s a bunch of elitists at the core of the event, but it’s not the majority.
TLDR: The trend of wealthy people is going up while the less wealthy trends down.
The other takeaway is that more than half the attendees make more than 100k a year so not exactly a minority.
100k salary is a decent amount of money but it’s far as fuck from being “rich”.
If 100k isn’t rich to you then you have lived an exceptionally blessed life. Also “more than” doesn’t mean all of them are making exactly 100k
How rich you are on 100k really depends on where you live.
Tell that to people making less than 30k and describe the look they give you
100k in a place like NYC is literally living like someone making 30-45k in some rural town.
Bro, median household income in the US is almost $80k. It's not 1998 anymore.
True for one person but this is household income. A married couple both making $50k would fall into this. While that is definitely not poor by any means. I think it is fair to say that it would be a bit of a stretch to call a person in the us today making $50k "rich."
People tend to acquire wealth over time? There is a solid correlation between wealth and age, so this shouldn't be surprising in the least. And especially those who had time/energy to spare to attend festivals earlier are especially predisposed for acquiring now wealth down the line. Assuming that they return over the years, all of this is pretty much to be expected.
---In 2013, the median age of burners was 32, and in 2022, it was 37.
My take away was that it seems like it is the same people going every year: they are getting older and richer, because that is what happens over time.
They still should have checked the weather report.
Even if they had checked the weather, would they have known 0.8 inches of rainfall translates into being stranded in the desert and possible death? I've never been to BM or spent time in a desert so this is news to me. Were people warning about this and attendees just ignored it?
Yes. You need to stay out of the desert if there is any rainfall. That is basic knowledge you should know before going out there.
I didn’t say they were smart people. Just not all rich people.
I hate to sound callous
No, you fucking revel in it. Why the fuck else would you feel the need to post this?
First you replace them with your straw man (“rich tech bros”) and then burn it down (“tech bros just deserve what they get”)
Well, stay in your basement you smug piece of shit. Mommy will have tendies ready soon.
Maybe in ten years you can rename it to "Monsoon Man" and theme it around rain.
It's not a total loss.
Lol, lmao even.
Not OP but I also laughed at the ocean sub crushing like a beer can against the forehead of god and I am CACKLING at this.
With that attitude, the only difference between you and the type of rich person you seem to despise, is wealth.
Most people at Burning Man aren't rich. I hung out with a bunch of people who go regularly last night and I imagine less than half even own their own property.
So yeah, you sound pretty callous tbh
That’s because the people saying this shit think a 100k salary makes you rich.
These people are so broke that any amount of money to them is “rich”.
The cost of living here isn't very high. The people I mentioned in my comment as not owning property probably make less than 50k.
A lot of them camp together to split set up costs, gas, etc. So, they make it work, and I know a lot of them make sacrifices to make it work (living in a shitty apartment the other 51 weeks a year so they can afford the lifestyle for example).
It's not for me, personally. A fun crowd. Like carnies on LSD. But chronic pain and a history of interpersonal trauma make the desert sound like a really horrible time. Plus I'm poor poor (like on disability poor).
I do enjoy the regionals though when I feel up for them.
Dude shut up. Plenty of non rich people go too. In fact, the chill guy I procure cartridges from is there now and I’m actually concerned. He’s just a normal dude. I mean…he LOVES weed but besides that lol…
Apparently the weather stations in the SoCal desert didn't see it coming at all. Not sure how that's possible, but that's what they said Friday. Tons of flooding in Palm Springs and Vegas too.
When Diplo and Chris Rock are attending it’s not Burning Man anymore. It’s just another event for trust fund kids and middle managers clinging to their long past youth. Add a sprinkle of tech bros for flavor and you get an event I don’t mind not attending.
Not that the folks who do attend Burning Man are regretting my absence in the least 🤣
I wanted to go to this when I was a teen because it was so counter culture and free spirited. Now you couldn't pay me to go. It's gross what techbros and 1%ers have turned it into.
Same with every festival. So disappointing that I'll never have the chance to experience (or be able to afford, regardless) the way Coachella or Burning Man was when I was younger.
0.8 inches...
Funny how so little fucked them so much!
They're also at the lowest drainage point for that whole valley. Plus, the properties of the lakebed make it so that water is very slow to soak into the ground, so it's going to take a while for things to dry out.
Hey, 0.8 inches is completely acceptable and it gets the job done. It's not the size of the dingy but the motion in the ocean...or in this case it's not how much you fill the graduated cylinder but how dry the soil is.
On a more serious note, this has the potential to become a huge tragedy; there are 10's of thousands of people out there with limited resources and more rain is coming. I hope that things stay under control.
That dry lake bed is like powdered mud, it's so fine that any water instantly makes mud.
Burning man is held on a dry lakebed, funny thing about lakes is that they tend to form in the places water naturally tends to accumulate, it just happens that it's a desert, so normally there's no rain so no water. So basically any rain that falls in the area tends to drain to the burning man playa, while only .8" fell directly on burning man, a decent amount more accumulated there.
The soil there also tends to turn to mud, and there's no real plants with root systems and such to help hold it together.
everyone loves to have a hate boner for this festival so how would you feel if it closes? one less fun thing in the world, even if it may not be your cup of tea. all the good festivals shut down where i am and it just feels so 'sterile' now
I wonder if any of them called the cops to suggest that the puddles had a gun. Any reports of the popo ramming the rain?
Apparently many of them tried to get the cops to come out and get rid of the climate protesters they had to drive by on the way in.
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