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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 58 points 14 hours ago

The guy illegally attempted to overturn an election. Spread a deadly lie about our institutions that incited an insurrection. Stole classified documents and refused to return them when asked. Stated he trusted Russian intelligence over U.S. intelligence on live television.

The man is quite literally a traitor to the United States of America.

And, as a nation, we decided that not only was it not a big enough deal to do anything about, but that we should totally let him be president again.

No one should be surprised about this, or any of the insane shit we'll be hearing over the next 4 years.

Welcome to the new normal. It's going to be bad. And it's going to get worse. And it'll probably continue after Trump is gone because that's what happens when this kind of stuff gets normalized.

America is failing, and this is probably just the beginning.

[-] DougHolland@lemmy.world 14 points 14 hours ago

Yup, failing, or already failed and we're just waiting for the ashes to settle. I don't think democracy can work when the public is intentionally being misinformed, and no country can be stable when it's governed by a shitstorm of lies.

[-] mynameisigglepiggle@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

Y'all weren't that misinformed. He got up on stage and rambled. He got up on stage and said nothing while he barely gyrated his hips for 40 minutes. He grabbed em by the pussy.

The whole election campaign was so laughably bad that it became a flex of how he is going to get away with everything. If you voted him in knowing all this than who gives a fuck what he does.

The fires have been lit, but we haven't completely burned down quite yet... It's really only a matter of time, though.

[-] DougHolland@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

11 days until the real fun starts!

[-] caveman8000@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Just wait till you see the price of eggs...

[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Putin's poodle is a pushover again.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago

It's also a distraction tactic, so the Trump admin can ban trans people from sports, to ease people for the eventual banning of trans people.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 13 points 13 hours ago

I kind of suspect treating people poorly is the distraction. He's trying to make sure people don't notice that putin's hand is up his ass.

[-] mynameisigglepiggle@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Yeah he doesn't care about trans people, he cares about sweet sweet corruption.

[-] dx1@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

Honestly I think the "Trump as an agent of Russia" take is an extremely uninformed take on geopolitics. Trump is an agent of the U.S. empire. That's why he supports all the U.S. fascist militarism, xenophobia, giveaways to arms manufacturers, oil/gas/etc. companies, giveaways to Wall Street, all of that. Russia is a whole separate power structure whose interests are largely opposed to those of the U.S. empire. So where does that leave you? It seems this is meant more for Democrat ingestion and boogeymanism/scapegoating to detract attention away from the actual workings of the system here.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 14 points 15 hours ago

Ooh, this is interesting.

I've talked before about how I have a working theory about how when the top comments section looks "wrong," some of the propaganda accounts will make new top-level comments and top-level replies, in a sudden flurry of activity to a previously pretty dormant comments section, until it looks "right" again and the conversation they're trying to downplay, in this case suprh_ninja getting ridiculed for being transparent propaganda, is shifted to way down the page.

That might sound like some tinfoil hat stuff except for how low-effort and bizarre this comment is. Trump was proven after extensive investigation to be an agent of Russia. He's pretty open about it. He is actively hostile to the US empire, both the good and bad parts, although he is also aligned with a lot of domestic fascist elements. Are you saying Trump is happy about spending $60 billion dollars on aid for Ukraine, because it's part of "all the giveaways to arms manufacturers"?

[-] dx1@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

He's "actively hostile" to the U.S. empire? Show me where he decreased its budget:

It's ridiculous to just start throwing around "propaganda" accusations at any random user you disagree with. Evidence first, smears later.

What "extensive investigation"? What is the specific evidence that was shown to the public, and what does it establish?

Trump is a war criminal and a fascist, focus on what you can actually prove that he's done wrong, so you're not chasing red herrings that validate him to his supporters when you can't prove them.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 8 points 14 hours ago

And now there are three more top-level comments.

Timestamps of all the top-level comments on this post:

  • Original post, Jan 8 6:38 PM
  • Flurry of new-post replies, ending with:
  • Jan 8, 7:43 PM
  • Jan 8, 8:55 PM
  • Jan 8, 9:02 PM (last comment before things die down)
  • Jan 9, 9:51 AM
  • Jan 9, 10:14 AM (this is surph_ninja's comment with a massive replies section which over the last couple of hours started going poorly for him)
  • Jan 9, 12:52 PM
  • Jan 9, 12:43 PM
  • Jan 9, 1:00 PM
  • Jan 9, 1:13 PM
  • Jan 9, 1:18 PM

Why just now did it become active again, and all with top-level replies, not people responding to anything in the conversation below?

This is actually the first time I've seen some real confirmation for my theory about specific activity to bury conversations that people don't want to have at the top of the comments. Before this, it was just a feeling, but this seems pretty hard to explain any other way.

[-] dx1@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

^ Beware of confirmation bias.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Dude figured out how the ‘Hot’ sorting algorithm works, and thinks he’s uncovered a conspiracy. LoL.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 6 points 10 hours ago

That's actually, in all seriousness, a really good point. I think it's "Active" that works that way, not "Hot," but I get your point. It still doesn't explain why they're all top-level comments, or why there was a sudden rush of new ones all with similar totally bizarre lazy takes, like "Trump loves expanding the US empire and doing the bidding of the US foreign-policy establishment."

[-] spacesatan@leminal.space 4 points 11 hours ago

It's so cool watching conspiratorial thinking consume every level of society.

The russians are highly invested in swaying the tens of people on lemmy, theyre watching this post like a hawk.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

To be fair, there’s definitely astroturf and propaganda accounts/bots on here. They don’t set those propaganda budgets up for nothing.

But accusing every single criticism of US foreign policy of being a foreign bot just makes me think that account is a domestic bot. Or a deeply propagandized individual.

[-] bishbosh@lemm.ee 1 points 9 hours ago

real confirmation

Sure about that one kiddo?

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I believe Russia has influence operations for purposes of making US divisive, fanning both neo-nazi/hatred, and victim attention/reaction against right wing hate. You can consider Russian influence assistance to the GOP agenda of pillaging America, but there is no debt/subservience to Russia by US politicians, and GOP messaging would not differ in the slightest. It just gains volume. Russia DGAFs about Canada, Greenland, Panama changes.

There should be a reaction from "allies"/world to pivot to much lesser evil Russia/China from new US warmongering freedom, but even Biden's war on Russia was simply a perpetual weapons and oil profits scheme meant to subjugate Europe. That Trump offers bigger military budget and harsher terms for EU existence is just a continuation of simps who promise to be simps under all circumstances being punished more harshly for their alliance.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

An empire builder would work with existing alliances, surely, rather than weakening them all systematically, threatening the allies, and undermining their governments until only the USA's enemies remain strong, while simultaneously implementing policies that damage the USA's own economy.

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